fallen angels Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 hi, i have decided to make a fallen angel army that have been destroying small patrols of dark angel units to gather numbers to make a small army. the small army will consist of the fallen angel leader who converts the dark angel patrols to the fallen. i need as much help as i can get here and all advise, help, pictures, fluff, names for commanders and units absolutely any advise is needed.\ thank-you for your time :ph34r: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147483-my-new-fallen-angel-project/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 i have decided to make a fallen angel army that have been destroying small patrols of dark angel units to gather numbers to make a small army. the small army will consist of the fallen angel leader who converts the dark angel patrols to the fallen. I don't think that's how it works. So much for the fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147483-my-new-fallen-angel-project/#findComment-1710830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Surely you don't want us to create your fluff, background, army and list for you? If I were you I'd hop on over to the LIBER and read: this excellent post(link) Edit: as for Fallen fluff, check the stickies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147483-my-new-fallen-angel-project/#findComment-1710898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 When you say fluff, do you mean that you require background information on the Fallen Angels themselves? I can easily dig out my second ed codex and provide you with details if you wish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147483-my-new-fallen-angel-project/#findComment-1710899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leethal Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 You can't "turn" a Dark Angel. They are so stubborn it's not funny. You know the scene in the Flight of Eisenstien, where the Death Guard walk towards bunker? That's why Dark Angels do! You're better off just have a "hidden identity" Fallen Lord grabbing some regular Chaos Marines to create an Empire or something. It's better fluff. And doesn't break the foundation of Dark Angel fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147483-my-new-fallen-angel-project/#findComment-1711420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widowmaker Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 i have decided to make a fallen angel army that have been destroying small patrols of dark angel units to gather numbers to make a small army. the small army will consist of the fallen angel leader who converts the dark angel patrols to the fallen. I don't think that's how it works. So much for the fluff. You can't "turn" a Dark Angel. They are so stubborn it's not funny. You know the scene in the Flight of Eisenstien, where the Death Guard walk towards bunker? That's why Dark Angels do! You're better off just have a "hidden identity" Fallen Lord grabbing some regular Chaos Marines to create an Empire or something. It's better fluff. And doesn't break the foundation of Dark Angel fluff. I'm not sure about these as blanket statements. While "The Fallen" (Capital "T". Capital "F") is the term used to refer mainly to those Dark Angels who were turned by Luthor, there are several stories involving Dark Angels who have turned their back on the Imperium at a later date (I believe that a short story in "Into the Maelstrom" and the novel "Dead Sky Black Sun" if memory serves - which it often doesn't - both mention Dark Angels that have turned from the light. Heck the original fluff behind the Huron Blackheart's Red Corsairs was that it was made of Marines who had turned from the Emperor. And who better to do it than one of the Original Fallen? If you're going to do it though, I'd use different coloured armour to differentiate between The Fallen, and marines who happen to get sick of the early morning wake up call. I might also add to your fluff something about the new ones being seen as less than the orignal fallen, and getting all the lousy jobs to do (Similar to the Iron Warriors novel). There is plenty of stuff on this board about The Fallen, both as members of the Original Legion, and regarding those who fell later - searchy is your friend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147483-my-new-fallen-angel-project/#findComment-1711552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leethal Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 We all know Graham McNeil novels about Ventris hold no water in the universe of fluff. Even the Ultramarines agree with this. Sure, there are few Dark Angels who left, sick of something or other, but most likely that would be hunted down with a passion. They fall into the Renegade category. The Fallen are the Pre-Heresy Dark Angels who sided with Luthor. They aren't recruiting. They are a dwindling number, and Cypher actively gathers Fallen to betray. Ironic ain't it? Better them then him. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147483-my-new-fallen-angel-project/#findComment-1711555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widowmaker Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 We all know Graham McNeil novels about Ventris hold no water in the universe of fluff. Even the Ultramarines agree with this. Sure, there are few Dark Angels who left, sick of something or other, but most likely that would be hunted down with a passion. They fall into the Renegade category. The Fallen are the Pre-Heresy Dark Angels who sided with Luthor. They aren't recruiting. They are a dwindling number, and Cypher actively gathers Fallen to betray. Ironic ain't it? Better them then him. :P :) However, the point remains that it is within the realms of possibility that a charismatic Fallen (the original Fallen) could turn existing Dark Angels renegade, which is the premise of Fallen Angel's Army. Out of interest Leethal, I've seen you mention this ... Cypher actively gathers Fallen to betray. before. Where's it from, cos it's a bit of fluff I've never read. (there's a lot of fluff out there, and I'm always looking for DA stuff, so I was wondering what I missed) Cheers Widowmaker Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147483-my-new-fallen-angel-project/#findComment-1711613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leethal Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Its from either the Medusa campaign or from the Eye of Terror. I can't remember exactly which, but it was one of those two. After all these GW campaigns, they all kinda blur into one really long tedious journey. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147483-my-new-fallen-angel-project/#findComment-1711813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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