Ullr Direfang Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 ok some i was bored a few nights ago, and starting running around online for rumors for 40k. i came across something about the Golden throne being broken and the emperor comes out alive.... so my questions for you to think on are: 1) if he is alive, does this mean Russ for what he was looking for and has returned? i think this would be a cool twist. i know it just looks like i want my primach back, but i couldn't see any other reason for him to be alive. 2) if russ isn't back how is he alive? why would he have been "trapped" if he was slowly healing himself? and 3) what do you think is going to happen fluff wise for the 40k universe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
barek Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Nope. Russ has been found already in another thread. Qouting Wolf89: "Russ isn't in the eye of terror, he's in my basement Cryogenically Frozen next to Walt Disney. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1712457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 hehe, thanks barek you made me smile. :D From what I remember reading in the BBB the golden throne is broken, the emperer is still dying, and no one knows how to fix the ancient throne because the technology is forgotten. This could still help your assumption that Russ will be arriving, SOONER than expected and he wouldn't want papa to die. As for him already being back, it's not a viable statement. I haven't really read that much of the fluff in the BBB though, and I don't intend to. I try not to get to caught up in the storyline because then I find myself thinking about it more and more instead of concentrating on schoolwork and stuff. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1712463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=132346 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...howtopic=139005 :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1712521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 The thing about this is, however, that the Emperor wouldnt want to return to the living realm if/when the golden throne finally gives out on him. One of the biggest things that chaos fears is that the emperor will finally be free of his material body, so that he can fully manifest himself in the warp and finally be able to take on the chaos gods themselves. He is one of the only powers in the universe that can stand up against them and can presumably take on all the gods individually, and they would have to come together to face his powers. This is one of the reasons that they laugh at the imperium of man, in that they are keeping their savior from truly rising to his true powers and saving them. (I think the biggest source of this line of fluff is from Eye of Terror (the book, not the sourcebook) if memory serves) That being said, one has to wonder what would trigger russ to return? Would it simply be the throne finally failing or would it be the emperor, finally freed of his body, finding his son and aiding him, returning him to his pack to prepare for the final battle against chaos? Just a fluff nugget to chew on....or would that make it nuget? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1712595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I think Cypher was tasked with "killing" the emperor to bring about his return. Want to say I read somewhere that he can be reborn at will, being fully immortal... so them keeping him in the Golden Throne is, more or less, preventing him from either recovering or dieing to be reborn. Its all a plot by the high lords of terra and their yes-men, the Ultras. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1712630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tiger Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 From what I remember reading in the BBB the golden throne is broken, the emperer is still dying, and no one knows how to fix the ancient throne because the technology is forgotten. they should of kept the instruction manual, but nooooo, they acted like the throne was an Ikea kit, they gave it to some blokes and they said "bah we don't need no instructions, how ard can it be" and this is what happens Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1712636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I think Cypher was tasked with "killing" the emperor to bring about his return. Want to say I read somewhere that he can be reborn at will, being fully immortal... so them keeping him in the Golden Throne is, more or less, preventing him from either recovering or dieing to be reborn. Its all a plot by the high lords of terra and their yes-men, the Ultras. That would make a LOT of sense... I mean everywhere Cypher is there is an uprising... I mean what would cause people to turn more than saying kill the emperor to set him free? Also the high lords don't want to loose their power, that much is known for sure... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1712690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I suggested the idea in another forum. So, lets say Cypher completes his mission and the Golden Throne is destroyed (or disabled, or whatever). The emperor dies, only to be instantly reborn (not sure if its as a child or adult, but whatever). Maybe he just instantly regenerates... who knows? What are the High Lords to do? They are no longer needed, or if they are not with as much power as they wield. So, they denounce the Emperor reborn as a trick of Chaos, and start a civil war. Lap-dog chapters (I refuse to call them loyalist.. only those that follow the emperor are loyal, and yes, the dog comment was an intended pun) like the Ultras would follow the High Lords, without a doubt. More independent minded chapters, such as the SW and DA (and likely the BA.. any chapter that DIDNT come from the Ultras) would have to find out for sure.. but would determine in the end that he was the true Emperor. THAT would be a hell of a scenario. I would LOVE to have it where the Emperor and those chapters that stayed loyal to him (Chapters? What the hell!?!?! Where are my legions?!?! Who's hairbrained idea was this?!?!) had to fight in a galaxy wide civil war vs the High Lords and those that follow them. We would be horribly outnumbered.. but man, what a fight! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1712961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis360 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 they should of kept the instruction manual, but nooooo, they acted like the throne was an Ikea kit, they gave it to some blokes and they said "bah we don't need no instructions, how ard can it be" and this is what happens Mech Adept: "So widget A goes in this hole but... gah! There's no way this imitation pine frame goes in there. Look, its completely the wrong shape!" Mech Adept2: "You could always hammer it in and, um, *make* it fit. Mech Adept: "I guess so... After all its only an eternal life support machine intended to preserve the supreme being of the dominant race of the galaxy and thus create a psychic beacon so powerful it can be seen across the entire galaxy and make flight between the stars possible, thus prolonging human civilization as we know it. Not rocket science, really. Adept2: "I still think we should have got the little draws that slide out from under the throne for extra storage space. Those were funky." Adept1: "Stop with the moaning and fetch the hammer." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1713146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle==mouse Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I cant remeber if im right on this so correct me if im wrong but my friend was say telling me one day I think if russ returns from were ever he is then isn't the whole univers suposed to end or something like that I might be wrong so correct me if I am. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1713185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I cant remeber if im right on this so correct me if im wrong but my friend was say telling me one day I think if russ returns from were ever he is then isn't the whole univers suposed to end or something like that I might be wrong so correct me if I am. Well what some of us have posted it's basically what will happen in essence. Russ returns, revolts against the high lords. Imperium split down the middle (well not exactly in half, but it's pretty close) they fight eachother, chaos get involved, other races as well, necrons, tau, you name it. In the end it's orks, necrons, tyranids, and lets face it, in the end necrons will be left. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1713471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Scout Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 My god this is an interesting thred. I knew those ][ pansies were up to no good. Servents of chaos all of em ! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1713592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted October 2, 2008 Author Share Posted October 2, 2008 good god...i mean emperor Maverik! ^_^ those links you posted nearly put me in stasis. where did you ever think of that. you should write books! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147610-emperor-reborn/#findComment-1713869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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