Wolf89 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Well I want to leav a guy fairly barebones to give the impression that it's not the cheesiest heavy weapon squad ever :D Besides I'm really short on points. I could replace his RC with a SS though, or field the plasma guy without termi armour. I like replacing the RC with a SS... theoretically it's more survivable, you allocate the armor saves to the 2+ armor with RC's, then you use the invulnerable save on the PA guy first as he's cheap and doesn't contribute much. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1722375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamat008 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Except if my opponent inflicts a lot of high AP wounds, which is likely with Eldar (Scatter Lasers, Shuriken Cannons) and Nids (Devourers, Deathspitters), in which case I'd be better off with a re-rollable 3+ than a 3+ inv Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1722461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Except if my opponent inflicts a lot of high AP wounds, which is likely with Eldar (Scatter Lasers, Shuriken Cannons) and Nids (Devourers, Deathspitters), in which case I'd be better off with a re-rollable 3+ than a 3+ inv :pinch: Well you'll face more shots from other armies besides eldar, eldar provide more AP weaponry that ignores your 3+ armor save... There is one easy way to solve this though, place them in good cover and they get 3-4+ cover saves. :P Then you can take your precious re-rollable 3+ armor save. I'd be moving around my squad though, especially if I can kite around stuff like monstrous creatures. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1722476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamat008 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 What do you mean by re-rollable 3+inv :D I'm pretty sure that RC only work with armour saves. Anyway I think I'll opt for a Termi Armour and RC and put them in cover, a re-rollable 2+ and a 4+ cover save should be enough for any foe. The problem with Eldar and to a lesser extent Tyranids is that they can dish out lots of high AP shots and as you said at the same time low AP shots/ rending... So the best solution would be termi, RC and SS for everybody but as much as I love my WGBG I won't field a 600 point squad in a 2000 point game :pinch: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1722514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Sorry I must have overlooked that, I typed quickly and was jumping between inv. and armor saves and got confused. :blink: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1722536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 DA can take 2LC with their cyclones? Is this in print, or a 'creative application' of the rules? If they can, I would say we can. If not... your safe with SB/PF. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1722642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamat008 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Yeah DA can take anything from TH/SS to 2 LC and PF/SB with a Cyclone. But they will stick with the Heavy 1 CML :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1723413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 IMHO - If the DA can field a variety other than SB/PF with their cyclones, the fact that our Wolf Guards can buy any weapon combo would imply, to me anyway, that we can as well. If the rest of you agree I will add a summary along those lines to the FAQ. That we really dont know for sure, but the SM get SB/PF, and DA get other combos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1723624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 IMHO - If the DA can field a variety other than SB/PF with their cyclones, the fact that our Wolf Guards can buy any weapon combo would imply, to me anyway, that we can as well. If the rest of you agree I will add a summary along those lines to the FAQ. That we really dont know for sure, but the SM get SB/PF, and DA get other combos. We had a quick discussion about it at my gaming group, i was quite happy to use the standard SB/PF setup but the other guys encouraged me to go for something more interesting, the current favorite being Storm shield and/or lightening claws. If DA's can do it surely we can do it better :P Fang Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1723671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I have one metal model with 2LC/CML, and another I am undecided on. Might as well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1723723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Actually heres an interesting one: It says in Codex SM that you can have 1 in 5 models in the unit upgrade to a heavy weapon... both flamers and cannons exchanging for their stormbolter, the CML simply being added on... but it doesnt say wich model. You could in fact put it on the seargent, meaning that even smurfts can have a powerweapon, stormbolter, and missile launcher on one guy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1723923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 meaning that even smurfts can have a powerweapon, stormbolter, and missile launcher on one guy. BLASPHEMY! :D Me and my 4 AC's in a drop pod WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1723932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 meaning that even smurfts can have a powerweapon, stormbolter, and missile launcher on one guy. BLASPHEMY! :D Me and my 4 AC's in a drop pod WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS!!! I think you mean three ACs. If you take a LRC you can get four ACs in a pack Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 meaning that even smurfts can have a powerweapon, stormbolter, and missile launcher on one guy. BLASPHEMY! :RTBBB: Me and my 4 AC's in a drop pod WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS!!! I think you mean three ACs. If you take a LRC you can get four ACs in a pack Refer to the "I win button" section Dark B. You'll see lars' post about how he fit 4 AC's into a pod (1 WGBL, 3 WGBG in tda (that's 8 slots so far) then 4 WGBG in PA to make a 7 man WGBG squad that you can round up to get the 3rd AC), nasty Idea, and great execution. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 meaning that even smurfts can have a powerweapon, stormbolter, and missile launcher on one guy. BLASPHEMY! :RTBBB: Me and my 4 AC's in a drop pod WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS!!! I think you mean three ACs. If you take a LRC you can get four ACs in a pack Refer to the "I win button" section Dark B. You'll see lars' post about how he fit 4 AC's into a pod (1 WGBL, 3 WGBG in tda (that's 8 slots so far) then 4 WGBG in PA to make a 7 man WGBG squad that you can round up to get the 3rd AC), nasty Idea, and great execution. ;) Yeah, i had seen the list right after i had written the post. Nasty, indeed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Come on down to Krazy Koslovs Assault Cannon Emporium! All AC's, all the time! Buy 3, get 1 free! Orks got you down? The green tide reminding you of your lawn when you havent mowed it in weeks? Have we got the weedwhacker for you! Using the trademarked "Lars and the Drop Pod of DOOM!" technology, you too can stem the green tide. When you absolutely must kill every xenos on the table, accept no substitute! Hurry, supplies are limited! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamat008 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 In my next Apocalyspe Battle I will surely field a WGBG retinue with 4 CML/PF/SS and 4 Wolves as ablative wounds, even nastier to get rid of Orky nuisances :RTBBB: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Why wait for Apocalypse? This is the kind of fun that belongs in friendly league games and newbie tournaments! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamat008 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Because for that Apocalypse battle I'll have the points to field another WGBG retinue with 3 ACs in a Pod ;) And my next tournament is attended by all the best french players, so I'll stick with my 3 CML/PF/SS retinue on foot. I wish there were such a thing as newbie tournaments in my area though :RTBBB: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Come on down to Krazy Koslovs Assault Cannon Emporium! All AC's, all the time! Buy 3, get 1 free! Orks got you down? The green tide reminding you of your lawn when you havent mowed it in weeks? Have we got the weedwhacker for you! Using the trademarked "Lars and the Drop Pod of DOOM!" technology, you too can stem the green tide. For the Green Tide i have my own recept. No need for ACs. That´s a job for S-Hammer and his Wulfen. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Space%20Wolves/SternhammersWulfenGuard.jpg Specially if you have 30 of them. Muhuhuhahahahahah. I love the look of my opponents when i tell them that my Wulfen have 120 rending attacks with S5 and I5. But with 4 ACs you can show those filthy Tau scum what real firepower is. I´m just working on my WGBL with AC and his TDA retinue with three more ACs in a LRC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Oh, how I wish I could find enough Wulfen models to actually FIELD that unit. I am going to have to proxy it at Apoc games... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamat008 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Sternhammer's Wulfen Guard really is an awesome formation. With only, should I say when I see Dark Bjoern's picture, 20 Wulfen I managed to shred to pieces an entire Wind Rider host, i.e 15 Eldar Jetbikes and 6 Vypers, followed by a squad of Banshees, a squad of Scorpions and in the end some Dire Avengers. The look on my mate's face was priceless when he saw them Flank March just after his precious jetbikes :D In my next Apoc game I'll use them along with Sternhammer's special rules (btw if anybody wants some info on him ;) ), I already laugh imagining the guy wanting to target them with his Titans from 72" away just to find that he has to test for Night Fighting ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 God, this is why I want to get more wulfen. I've been able to get 5 so far, but I just want to field an allied tide of 13th co wulfen to just sweep away everything before it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148219-how-to-arm-a-wg-with-cyclone-missile-launcer/page/2/#findComment-1724193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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