Grey Mage Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I would require the person to allow me to measure the distance to each model of the unit I was firing at. Each one. And they had better be clearly marked. Because it just doesnt make any sense... and as I recall you have to go through to inches to be considered in cover... Id want to see that distance. If they want to put gretchin in front by the pound.... or a large mob in front of their burnas.... more power to them... but telling me I cant hit boys cause of the boys... is like saying you cant get firewood because a dead trees in the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1731598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share Posted October 14, 2008 I am surprised that my tactic's plan did not get challenged. Wondering if anyone has seen this used or used it themselves with sucess or do they think it would get laughed right off the table? Me I am afraid to use its pure cheese wiziness. can you imagine if horde armies tried it. I wouldn't laugh it off the table I'd pack up and leave. I've seen it argued in many ways and by many people for many reasons and honestly I could care less about the RAW aspects, its not just cheese its downright unsportsmanlike to abuse such a loophole and not something I think the Wolves of Fenris need lower themselves to do. I also would downright refuse to play anyone who did it. Rules loophole or no its a downright disgusting thing for a player to try and pull. By RAW yes the "trick" is legal but like I said its such an extreme abuse of the rules for such an outrageous advantage I personally refuse to have anything to do with it. Maybe that sounds childish but I find anyone who has to resort to such unsportsmanlike conduct to win is childish in the extreme. I've walked out of two tournaments/events so far where such conduct was allowed along with everyone who came with me. The first rule of the game is to have fun and I think such conduct undermines the gaming experience to an unacceptable degree. I missed something... what tactic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1731910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I missed something... what tactic? Something about Vrox's list he posted where it makes use of the "moving cover wall" that the orks are notorious for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1731936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I missed something... what tactic? Something about Vrox's list he posted where it makes use of the "moving cover wall" that the orks are notorious for now. /Shrug. Let them group up in nice cover giving units. I'll drop my flamer dreads on them and ask them to go ahead and make that cover save...or that armor save....oh wait... There are always ways to counter cheese. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1731971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 All hail the whirlwind.... 2d6-4 cannot miss a group of 60 boyz. Thank sweet russ and the emperor for remembering to give us an ignores cover salvo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1732241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Admittedly a house rule, but my clubs way around this is a modified take on the IC rules, namely haveing to stay x inchs away from a squad unless your joining it. Generally we try to keep units at least 1 inch apart not least to make it clear which unit is which :devil: Theres 2 3000 point plus nid armies at my club and nether of them have tried it and nether agree with it, not least as its then hard from them to tell which unit is which :P. Beyond that anyone trying it gets an auto-loss and will be kicked out if they try it again. But as I said thats a house rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1732688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I thought the one inch rule was still in effect :S??? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1733411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I thought the one inch rule was still in effect :S??? nope, that's why everyone's doing it, and their mother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1733503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I cant believe I missed that.... that does make it plausable... but.... no. Thank god no one does that around here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1733521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 really now? I must have missed it in reading the rulebook. Has it come to be that only the Space Wolves are honorable fighters in the galaxy? Or is it just me, since I'll never put a unit within 1" of another except in CC. Call me old-fashioned I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1733562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Honor in this regard is of course important and we being wolves have it in bucket loads but its just confussing as hell if you let thing get that close especially in big games where you have so much to think about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1734441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WG Vrox Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 - I had never seen anyone use it, I was just cruising through the book and it came to me that it was possible. Like I said I would never use it, but when the topic is bring on the cheese.... I think I would call foul if I saw anyone use it, if they insisted Iwould pack up my army and walk away to a different table. Heck I have a hard enough time with horde armies and those who attempt the "how do I get an extra inch" on every move. When I see them taking an extra inch, I am one of those guys that will watch them measure and" help" by putting my finger on the spot where the 6" mark was measure and not move my finger until that unit is done moving. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1734477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Its both funny as hell that you do that and also sad as hell that you have to. Theres some people that need to feel the sharp end of Wolfy honor i thinks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1734481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 We really gotta get this thread back on track and have people posting more 750 pt modular lists. C'mon guys, what's the cheesiest/best/most solid lists that you can come up with for 750 pts. Doesnt even have to follow FOC, but you might wanna include an IC to make it a legit 750 pt module. I know we can do better than like 7 or 8 lists, so lets see what you've got! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1736602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 4xWolf Scouts- 2xPowerweapon, 2xShotgun.- 76pts. LandRaider- 250 Pts. 10x Greyhunters- 2x Powerweapon- 190 pts. Wolf Priest- Bike, Frag Grenades- 131 Pts 3x Bloodclaw Bikers- Powersword- 98pts 750pts This is designed to help support a Drop Pod base, like WLL's Drop pod of three Assault Cannons, etc. It ads a scoring unit in a transport that can support in assault, the transport wich can potentially destroy two vehicles a turn, Wolf Scouts who can OBEL and jump in to support an assault, or Infiltrate for a possible first turn charge- second turn if not, and of course 4 Turboboosting Shocktroops. A benefit of this formation is that it takes up one of each slot... wich means it should be able to fit into most armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1736763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WG Vrox Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Came up with a new one last night. WP on SMB BP/PW HB&P RC WTT 4 WG on SMBs 2 SS/PW 2 SS/PF 6 GH 5 BG 1MG Trans RB HB / HK Missle 6 GH 5 BG 1MG Trans RB HB / HK Missle Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1755743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Cityfight Troops section: Wolf Priest- HP+B, Frags, Meltabomb- 126pts. 10 Grey Hunters- Frags, Flamer, P.Pistol, P.Sword- 206pts. 12 Bloodclaws- Flamer, 2xFists, P.Weapon- 138pts. 6 Grey Hunters- Melta, Frags, 2xP.weapon- 138pts. Razorback- Hvy Flamers, Dozerblade- 70pts. 747Pts. Cityfight Support Section: Vendread- Multimelta,EA, Hvy Flamer- 180pts. Whirlwind- HKM- 95pts. Landspeeder- Mmelta, Hvy Flamer- 70pts. Ironclad- HvyFlamer(5), HKM- Droppod- Deathwind- 205pts. 6 Grey Hunters- Frags, Flamer, 2xP.Weapon- 234pts. Razorback- Hvy Flamer, Dozerblade- 70pts. 754pts. Base Droppod Section- Wolf Priest- RC- 105pts. 11 Bloodclaws- 3xPowerfist- Drop pod- 225pts. 10 Grey Hunters- 8xBolters, P.Pistol, P. Rifle, P. Fist- Drop Pod- 250 pts. Ironclad Dread- Drop Pod- 170pts. 750pts. Rhino Rushers 1.0 Wolf Lord- Frostblade, RC, SS, Frag, Bike, Meltabomb- 156pts. 4 Bloodclaw Bikers- 2x Powerfist- 144pts. Landraider- 250pts. 12 Bloodclaws- 2x Powerfist- 200pts. 750pts. Rhin Rushers 2.0 WGBL- Frostblade, RC, SS- 100pts WGBG- 2xLC, RC- 50pts. WGBG- RC, P.Fist- 45pts. WGBG- P.Axe, Combimelta, RC- 50pts. 4x Fenrisian Wolves- 48 pts. Rhino- 35pts. 10 Grey Hunters- 2xP.Sword, Melta- 200pts. Rhino- 35pts. 6 Grey Hunters- 2x P.Sword- 122pts. Razorback- TLLC- 75pts. 750pts. Just a few more modular lists that occurred tome during the boring stretch at work today.... figured Id throw them up. Not for the cheese contest, but fun anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1757684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 So these lists aren't self supporting anymore Grey Mage?... because your first rhino rushers has no grey hunters in the list... Keep up the modular's a coming! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1758056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I wasnt going for strictly self supporting... more of a mix an match for larger games in some cases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1758382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WG Vrox Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 If we clean this up a bit is it worthy of a sticky, I see alot of people reference it in threads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1771632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 It would probly be better just to repost the actual lists for the most part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1771685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 FOR THE LOVE OF RUSS WHY ISNT THIS STICKIED!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1775522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Because no one reads a sticky.... so we might as well let it float free, and come up as needed. Speaking of wich, more 750 goodness tonight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1775586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I should try to come up with some more for this too, though we really should clean this up and sticky it in a bad way. Such a good resource for those short in the fang. Where's max when you need him? hell, where's lars? lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1776095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Firing Line 1.5 WGBL- TDA, CML, RC, Frostblade, Pelt, 4x Fenrisian Wolves- 181pts. 10 GH- 9 Bolters, P. Rifle, P. Fist- 206pts. 10 GH- 9 Bolters, P. Rifle- 191pts. Whirlwind- 85pts. Whirlwind- 85pts. 750pts, 2KP, 2SU. Expanded Patrol List. Vendread- TLLC, EA- 180pts. 10 GH- 2x P.weapon, Meltagun- 200pts. Rhino- 35pts. 8 GH- P. Rifle, 7 Bolters, P. Fist- 170pts. 2 Attack Bikes- 80pts. Whirlwind- 85pts. 750pts, 6KP, 2 SU. Battering Ram Wolf Priest- 95pts. 15 Bloodclaws- 3x Powerfist- 246pts. 6 GH- 6x Bolters- 108pts. Razorback- 40pts. Landraider Crusader- MM- 260pts. 749pts, 5KP, 2 SU. Phalanx Vendread- Assault Cannon, EA- 160pts. Dreadnaught- Multimelta, EA- 120pts. 10 GH- 7x Bolter, P. Rifle, 2x P. Pistol, P. Sword- 219pts. Razorback- 40pts. 10 GH- Meltagun, 2x P.sword, P. Pistol- 210pts. 749pts, 5KP, 2 SU. Suprise Shot WGBL- A. Cannon, TDA, RC, FW, WP- 128pts. 11 BC- 3x P.Fist- 180pts. Drop Pod- Deathwind- 55pts. 10 GH- P. Rifle, 8x Bolters, P. Fist, P. Pistol- 215pts. Whirlwind- 85pts. Whirlwind- 85pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148494-750-modular-wolf-lists/page/3/#findComment-1777716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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