azindal Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 This is a tactical sqd from my own chapter http://www.errur.com/f/download/1224_full_sqd.jpg http://www.errur.com/f/download/9584_marine1.jpg http://www.errur.com/f/download/7634_tactical.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 this might just be me, but in my opinion they need a shoulder trim color for the company. as it stands right now they're a little to mono-toned for me. the grey- nice base color. the bone- nice accent for the chest eagles nice use of red for the bolters and weapons. good basing, its just the shoulders that i'm iffy about Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1724984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azindal Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 this might just be me, but in my opinion they need a shoulder trim color for the company. as it stands right now they're a little to mono-toned for me. the grey- nice base color. the bone- nice accent for the chest eagles nice use of red for the bolters and weapons. good basing, its just the shoulders that i'm iffy about Not just you ;) I think they are a little flat too, i posted them on here to get some feedback not to try and claim they are awesome :) I have been toying witht he idea of adding more colour but im not sure where or what to add. So any of your ideas are welcome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gafgarion Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 since you've already got red on the botlers, i think red trim would look fine. Do you have any fluff for them? Any reason why they're called what they're called? Any reason why their symbol is an upper case Sigma? What kind of personalities or 'traits' do they have as a chapter? Those are questions that will really help inform you on how to flesh out what makes your army unique, if they are very angelic you could do freehand wing symbols on their armour and have scriptures scrawled over it (squiggly lines!). Otherwise, there is nothing wrong with vanilla, you could even go hardcore 3rd edition and give them yellow shoulder trims and eagles! At the moment you have a very well painted basic squad, your skill is obvious as you can create a crisp and even look, so you're in the best place to go in and add extra detail (and a highlight or two :)) But yeah, if I didn't say so: these look great! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ompfris Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 nice marines, very clean, look great as a unit, the painting looks perfect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodstorm Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 love the work on the serg's head, very nice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I love it!!! Great show :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahdprophet Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Very cool, nice clean detail lines on the gray armor. What ink/wash, if any, did you use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azindal Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Do you have any fluff for them? Any reason why they're called what they're called? Any reason why their symbol is an upper case Sigma? What kind of personalities or 'traits' do they have as a chapter? Well, i havent really made anything final yet but here is what i was thinking; They are essentially a DarkAngel successor chapter, but are loyal to the emperor not the lion. As many know, the story goes that lion 'el jhonson joined the crusade with the marines created in his image [his gene seed] & luther was left with mainly marines of teran seed. Many of these darkangels were left to defend caliban while other companies were stationed off world on nearby planets, far away from luthers corruption. After the battle for terra & the lion destroying caliban, the remaining forces stationed offworld were held at arms length by the lion as they were all of terran seed not his own. Pledging allegiance to the emperor and not the lion the remaining darkangels reformed under differant colours [so not to be associated with 'the fallen'] and so the Emperors Angels were born. Currently stationed on Cadia. I chose the sigma just as an elabourate E for the emperor :D Very cool, nice clean detail lines on the gray armor. What ink/wash, if any, did you use? I used 2:1 water:chaos black as inks shine too much & the new black wash makes the grey look dirty. I have decided to trim the shoulder pads with black. not to add more colour as im happy with the contrast of grey/red, but just to brake up the grey abit. Thanks For the comments guys :) All appreciated! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
angerforce Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 They look a lot like MrManson's living dead marines, pre-death: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azindal Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 They look awesome! You're right, mine do look similar :wub: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucius Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 They look very good! I like the sergeant but i agree with the other guys a nice trim on the shoulder pads or something along that line would make them stand out! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hally Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 At first I thought they were just basecoated.. ..then I saw the close-ups and was impressed. They look great! Maybe apply a wash? You're a good painter, but I think it needs a little more shading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GI Joker Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I really like them, a good solid clean paint job. Nothing too fancy, just sold painting. The Sergeant's face looks good, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiodome Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 you seem to get a pretty rough texture on your armour sometimes. don't know if this is from the primer, the basecoat or something else... but i had similar problems from: spraying undercoating in damp/cold conditions (out of a window in winter :angry:) - try and spray in dry, room temperature (ish) conditions. or if it's gonna be cold where you spray, try and at least have the paint can at room temperature when you start... but don't leave stick it on a heat source for obvious safety reasons :tu: using water that i'd previously used to wash metlic paint off a brush (use seperate water for cleaning brushes when using metal paint, not the same water you use for other colours) using old GW paint that had thickened too much. just addind water didn't work particularly well, as it was literally dried flakes of paint mixed in with other paint... new paint required. if any of the above seem relevant hope the suggestions help o7 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1725894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalyp$e Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Beautiful painting... Like others have said, VERY flat though... I would definately pick-up those edges with some highlighting! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1726127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azindal Posted October 11, 2008 Author Share Posted October 11, 2008 Thanks for all the comments! I have a couple more pics: I put a black trim instead of using another colour as i currently like the dark feel to them. Also dropped some highlights on them :P http://www.errur.com/f/download/2271_highlights3.jpg http://www.errur.com/f/download/3893_Highlights.jpg http://www.errur.com/f/download/4631_highlights2.jpg What you think? Im not looking forward to the other 4 tactical sqds, 2 devie, 7 tanks, 3 dreads, 2 assault units, 2 termie units & all my hq's :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1726331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chaplain Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 oh yeah the black shoulderpads make a huge difference, good show. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1726359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Localhawaiian65 Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 First off, nice painting. You paint very cleanly with good attention to shading. Suggestions: 1) Highlights. Not sure if the camera is washing them out but I can't see them on the tops of the shoulder pad, backpacks, and legs. A two-layer highlight would make them pop. Also, I can't tell how many highlights on the reds. 2) As for the shoulder pads, just a thought. Maybe a red trim would be somthing to think about as it is the color of tactical marines. Anyways, again, good job! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1726494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaShadow Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Hey there. Again. Nice painting. It's really crisp and neat. I can see what you've done and it is looking really nice. 1) Personally I am not totally sure about the Black trim on the shoulder pads. Although I can totally agree with everyone and say that they pop out more then with just they grey. If you have any spare shoulder pads, I would see if you can whip up a test pad with the red and compare them on a model. See how they look. 2) The highlighting you've got is nice. It's subtle but you can see it on that three shot nicely. The guns look better too. I would think that if you gave the gun a full was and then go over them again with a really watered down Blood red is it? You'll get some nice definition and another couple of layers of red for the highlights on the guns too couldn't be a bad thing. I Do like the guns though, they are a really nice shade of red. 3) Are the shoulder pads highlighted? I can't see anything on those. Also your metals are they two tones? If they're boltgun and you pick off the edges with some Mithril they will look really nice. As you do have alot of metal on them (With the swords on their belts and the power sword) So some nice tones would set them off nicely. 4) On a total other note. How did you do your bases? Because that is what I am suffering from and would LOVE to have some awesome bases like yours. -Shadow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1726852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azindal Posted October 11, 2008 Author Share Posted October 11, 2008 First off, nice painting. You paint very cleanly with good attention to shading. Suggestions: 1) Highlights. Not sure if the camera is washing them out but I can't see them on the tops of the shoulder pad, backpacks, and legs. A two-layer highlight would make them pop. Also, I can't tell how many highlights on the reds. 2) As for the shoulder pads, just a thought. Maybe a red trim would be somthing to think about as it is the color of tactical marines. Anyways, again, good job! Thanks for the praise ;) You're correct in thinking the camera took away most of the shading/highlights as i paint with subtle shades, Im not into two tone highlights as i think its a bit too much for standard troops. I did try the pads with red, & i wasnt sure. They looked nice with the added contrast but its not the look im after. Hey there. Again. Nice painting. It's really crisp and neat. I can see what you've done and it is looking really nice. 1) Personally I am not totally sure about the Black trim on the shoulder pads. Although I can totally agree with everyone and say that they pop out more then with just they grey. If you have any spare shoulder pads, I would see if you can whip up a test pad with the red and compare them on a model. See how they look. Im trying to keep them as close to the darkangels theme as possible [swapping the black/green for the dark grey, keeping red weps & bone details] for fluff reasons, so im not keen on the red trim idea. Black still fits as its the colour of the pre heresy darkangels 2) The highlighting you've got is nice. It's subtle but you can see it on that three shot nicely. The guns look better too. I would think that if you gave the gun a full was and then go over them again with a really watered down Blood red is it? You'll get some nice definition and another couple of layers of red for the highlights on the guns too couldn't be a bad thing. I Do like the guns though, they are a really nice shade of red. I used Mechrite Red over black with a glaze of Chestnut Ink [2;1 - water;ink] then brought it back up to colour with a watered down Mechrite Red. 3) Are the shoulder pads highlighted? I can't see anything on those. Also your metals are they two tones? If they're boltgun and you pick off the edges with some Mithril they will look really nice. As you do have alot of metal on them (With the swords on their belts and the power sword) So some nice tones would set them off nicely. I have left the black trim unhighlighted for now as im still completing the highlights on the armour [only half were highlighted in the last pic update :P] & im yet to tone down the metal areas. Im strange, instead of working up from a colour i use a base colour first then tone it down with glazes/washes then highlight with the origonal colour. I find its effective yet simple and not so time consuming. 4) On a total other note. How did you do your bases? Because that is what I am suffering from and would LOVE to have some awesome bases like yours. Thanks :) I used gw's sand for the texture. Once dry i always go over the sand with another watered down layer of pva to hold it tight. I painted the whole base with Charadon Granite & drybrushed with 1:1 Charadon Granite:Astronomican Grey, then a final drybrush of Astronomican Grey. Then add random patches of Scorched Grass Once again thanks for all the input and feedback all I might keep track of how the force comes along with a thread in Work in progress Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1727027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrManson Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Hey, you forgot to paint the markings yellow! Oh wait... my mistake (ah, Angerforce was faster then me.) But seriously, they look great! The trim really added a lot of definition to them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1728061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azindal Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 Hey, you forgot to paint the markings yellow! Oh wait... my mistake (ah, Angerforce was faster then me.) But seriously, they look great! The trim really added a lot of definition to them. I hadnt seen your guys before, i was shocked how much like them mine are. Kind of ruins the idea i had for them, when there is another that it looks like i copied it from :down: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1728082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrManson Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Hey, you forgot to paint the markings yellow! Oh wait... my mistake (ah, Angerforce was faster then me.) But seriously, they look great! The trim really added a lot of definition to them. I hadnt seen your guys before, i was shocked how much like them mine are. Kind of ruins the idea i had for them, when there is another that it looks like i copied it from :) I was mostly surprised, in a good way. You shouldn't worry about it, great minds thinks alike, right? Besides, isn't it just like marine-chapters to look alike? Just look at the Revilers and the Relictors: http://oz.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/sm_gallery/images/15.jpg http://oz.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/painting/sm_gallery/images/67.jpg Makes them kind of believable, as if they share the same heritage. So I will happily follow your Chapters backstory, since my Emperor's Salvators are mostly just... dead. Living dead, sure, but still, dead. /MrManson Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1728120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-chaplain Astador Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 I like very nice detailed painting, and a good execution of the sceheme, good work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/148591-diy-chapter-emperors-angels/#findComment-1731794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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