Wolf Guard '79 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 With the new SM codex I was wondering your thoughts on the new LS Storm and it's usefulness in a SW army list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphius Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Very excited for it. I think it will be a fixture in a DP army for me. Being able to disrupt others deep strikes after dropping yourself in is very helpful. And the assault launchers or whatever they are called (-2 LD when charging someone out of it) are awsome to me. My scouts may not make it in one all the time, but this makes me want to field a second unit. Normal marines can't use this as deadly as we can. Our scouts in CC can be very nasty when used right, and with this kind of speed, they are easier to use. Also don't forget the speeder can have a weapon, which for me will be a heavy flamer almost every time. HF from the speeder, Flamer or melta gun from the scouts, even PP if that's your thing, 2 PW and you can kill quite a bit. Not to mention giving them Melta Bombs just got better. Fly 12 from the board edge, (flanking) hop out and even if you don't have much to shoot it with, getting a charge on a voulnerable tank should be fairly easy. I plan on running 2 scouts squads when elites are available, one obel, one flanking. And possible a Drop pod on the other flank. Vicing the enemy while the Bloodclaws in a LR move straight up the middle. To sum up, It's the thing I look forward to the most in the new Marine codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 My only complaint with it, is that its crewed by codex scouts i.e bs 3. Which is a shame but its still a nice piece of kit, never know we might get our own version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WG Vrox Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Fly 12 from the board edge, (flanking) hop out and even if you don't have much to shoot it with, getting a charge on a voulnerable tank should be fairly easy. Are you saying that scouts in a Storm can come in reserve and make use of the flanking rule? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Yup yup, it has both the 'scouts' and 'deep strike' special rules ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard '79 Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 My only complaint with it, is that its crewed by codex scouts i.e bs 3. Which is a shame but its still a nice piece of kit, never know we might get our own version. True but carrying a squad of SW scouts in the back of it with the flanking move or even deep striking has a nice advantage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Fang Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Damn straight ^_^ my mate that plays chaos is praying i don't use it :P he has enough bad luck with deep strike as it is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Its open topped.... so it can zoom around with a codex style equiped group of space wolf scouts.... lots of sniper/hvy bolter shots.... or plasma/melta death.... A very nice little gunboat, with good oppurtunities for assaulting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Its open topped.... so it can zoom around with a codex style equiped group of space wolf scouts.... lots of sniper/hvy bolter shots.... or plasma/melta death.... A very nice little gunboat, with good oppurtunities for assaulting. When it's moving you can't fire the hvy bolter or sniper shots. The plasma pistols and gun work fine though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I really, really, really need to get myself a personal on hand copy of the BRB I swear. Why in heavens name are people firing missile launchers out of the top hatches of rhinos? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Howland Greywolf Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Because, we can. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Then why not out of a storm? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Howland Greywolf Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 There's no reason why they cant. the weapons fired from inside a vehicle count as being part of the vehicles weaponry. So you could move 12" and fire all those snipers out of the storm because they dont have a set streangth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 There's no reason why they cant. the weapons fired from inside a vehicle count as being part of the vehicles weaponry.So you could move 12" and fire all those snipers out of the storm because they dont have a set streangth. Not sure who's telling you what, but the BBB never lies: Models firing from a vehicle count as moving if the vehicle moves, and may not fire at all if the vehicle moved at Cruising speed that turn. Do I need to explain more? if so PM me and I'll be happy to explain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1734794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. K. Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 I wish you could still fire out of a rhino than moved more than 6" that turn :angry: Back on topic: the storm, looks good, especially how well we can kit out our squads. to bad they cann't use the WGPL as he cann't ride in the storm (power armor). G Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1735093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torin Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 you can fire a ML out of rhino...??? where are the rules for that. i didnt see it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1735132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Its the top firing point. Wolf89, All I want is a page number please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1735239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucial Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 You wont get a page number Gray Mage. Wolf89 a big lier when it comes to rules. Back on topic, yeah it sounds awesome and the BS3 can be negated by just using the HF on the speeder instead. Is there an actual model for this yet? I havent seen one :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1735557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. K. Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Ask and yee shall recieve. I'll save wolf89 the time... page 66 paragragh ten. It is exactly as wolf89 quoted. Gunther Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1735734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 You wont get a page number Gray Mage. Wolf89 a big lier when it comes to rules. Back on topic, yeah it sounds awesome and the BS3 can be negated by just using the HF on the speeder instead. Is there an actual model for this yet? I havent seen one :D Are you serious? Be thankful I don't report you because I'm not a here to make accusations about others that I no nothing about, something you obviously know nothing about. I was gone all night so I didn't log on, check the records, not that I didn't want to answer, I would have been more than happy to post the page number as I quoted directly from the BBB. Please refrain from making yourself look like an ass and don't post about making fun of people and posting things you obviously don't know about. As GAK kindly said it's page 66 of the BBB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1735749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Thanks. Its not that I didnt believe you, but on monday Im going to need to show it to a few friends, so it helps to know ahead of time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1736124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 So you can't fire a Missille launcher from a moving vehicle. Who cares about that when you have a Meltagun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1736864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Thanks. Its not that I didnt believe you, but on monday Im going to need to show it to a few friends, so it helps to know ahead of time. No need to apologize, you asked legitimate questions that weren't demeaning to me in any way. :blink: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1736885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectre312 Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I'm not sure how wolfy this is of me, but personally, my scouts and my storm are going to be a back of raging flames and power weapons. I do feel bad for them though, what with the singed beards and all.... HF on my speeder, melta, flamer, guys holding a lighter up to thier mouth and blowing out ale....-_- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1738202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Howland Greywolf Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Ale wont catch fire. Its got too much water in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149342-land-speeder-storm/#findComment-1738369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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