Torin Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Is it of any use to for roling who start first in 5th ed. Some mission already mention like the person that deploys first move first kinda thing. Some mission player have to roll.. so how do we determine who goes first then and can we give our first turn to our opponent if we win our roll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 This is a debated one... I say you do it on the initial roll, as it determines who goes first amongst other things... and that depending on how your group sees it for seizing the iniative... some think its just one or the other, and Ive heard a few comments that say not at all.... So Id say go for it on the first roll... if you think its cool, ask your friends about the seize the iniative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/#findComment-1735244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 As far as RAW goes, it no longer exists. There is no roll to determine who goes first as such anymore, and so it is one of the casulties of our age. Sorry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/#findComment-1735376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunstar Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 In the deployment section on p.92 of the rule book it says in each box quite clearly- "The players roll-off, and the winner chooses to go first or second." And then in our codex it says simply under Ven Dreads special rules- "...[you] may re-roll the dice if the mission being played has a dice roll to see who gets first turn." So it seems obvious that if you are fielding ye oldy wise one, then this would be re-rollable. Actually i do believe GW have addressed this somewhere, just not sure where... :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/#findComment-1735443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 As far as RAW goes, it no longer exists. There is no roll to determine who goes first as such anymore, and so it is one of the casulties of our age. Sorry. This has been talked about numerous times and I'm 90% sure it's in our (5th ed. FAQ) sticky up at the top of the SW forum. The reading is simple, players roll for deployment, the player that deploys first goes first and so on, plus seize the initiative is also a re-rollable, but isn't recommended if you re-rolled the first roll since our C:SW says "a dice roll" instead of multiple. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/#findComment-1735772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 In the deployment section on p.92 of the rule book it says in each box quite clearly- "The players roll-off, and the winner chooses to go first or second." And then in our codex it says simply under Ven Dreads special rules- "...[you] may re-roll the dice if the mission being played has a dice roll to see who gets first turn." So it seems obvious that if you are fielding ye oldy wise one, then this would be re-rollable. Actually i do believe GW have addressed this somewhere, just not sure where... :P This is how we've been playing it. It seems pretty cut and dry..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/#findComment-1735797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 That is how I play it as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/#findComment-1736570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Dont we have this listed in the FAQ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/#findComment-1736589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Nope it's not in the FAQ (Official or B&C) Although I thought it was cut and dried, you could ask the winner to re-roll although the loser still may seize the initiative Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/#findComment-1736927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Dont we have this listed in the FAQ? I remember it being in there... at least in the discussion, but apparently Omar is lazy and doesn't read everything I type... ;) Or maybe it's because it wasn't in the form of a question?... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/#findComment-1736932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Exactly. Summarize it for me, Q and A style, and I will cut and paste it (and blame.. er.. cite whoever writes it up) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149414-vendred-old-and-wise/#findComment-1739065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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