CaptMac Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 The green stuff around the head has already set but I'll see if I can give it a tweak, I think you might be right about it looking more dramatic. I like the idea of looking up slightly. I've been sitting him on normal/chaos marine legs but with the pelt and the shoulders he looks a bit top heavy. I'll add a photo in a sec but till then heres here I got up to last night before my girl dragged me to bed. What colour do you think I should do his hair? I have to confess I was foolishly thinking it had to be black. To be honest I don't even know what colour to undercoat him! http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/captmac/RBM4.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1746319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptMac Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 See what I mean about the legs? Is it just me or is he proportioned a bit like Donkey Kong? I know the Standard Bearer is on a bit more of a base...what do you think termi legs, normal legs normal legs with a bit of extension? I know it's not a great pic but you get the idea. http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/captmac/RBM5.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1746346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I think it's more of a matter of "looks" top heavy rather than IS top heavy, and this is due to th efact that he has a big big cloak across his back. About the only thing that you can do about this is to give him a little more of a gussied up look in the front. a couple quick suggestions you could try would be to make a mini pelt/loincloth in the front area, and then maybe some sort of icon/skull/skull w/ wings across the front of one of his legs. This could give him more "girth" on his bottom half without actually adding too much. I do have to admit that the top half of the model is very busy, so there's gotta be something to match that in the lower half. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1746516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald Whitefang Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I think you should try an assault marine leg for that, chaos marine legs have thin upper parts for some reason (old models?) and they look kinda funny sometimes. Running assault marine legs should fix the problem :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1746519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 What colour do you think I should do his hair? I have to confess I was foolishly thinking it had to be black. I concur with Grimfoe; Ragnar Blackmane is a blonde. It was the big old wolf that he killed that had the black mane, not the man himself. Here are a couple of pictures of Ragnar from when his model was first released for 2nd edition: http://www.diarmaidwarren.com/Pages/oldies/ragnar_01.jpg Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1746535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptMac Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I've been reading through some of the Ragnar related posts on this forum and I've decided that you, Grimfoe, was on the proverbial money. Mine ones going to look too static. I'll redo/adjust the arm, tilt the head and then I'm going to use the legs from one of my jump pack guys to give him some...forward motion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1750061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I've been reading through some of the Ragnar related posts on this forum and I've decided that you, Grimfoe, was on the proverbial money. Mine ones going to look too static. I'll redo/adjust the arm, tilt the head and then I'm going to use the legs from one of my jump pack guys to give him some...forward motion? Maybe forward motion or maybe just a more dramatic pose. Do you have a second edition codex? I seem to remember a pose for the long fang sergeant that has one leg up on a rock and the other down lower. It would suit Ragnar in the way you wanted to build up his base and make him taller (or at least higher) than other models. You could even incorporate a model from your favorite opponent's army to be placed under his boot. His pistol could be aimed to put the pour soul out of their misery. Just an idea... I'll try to find the long fang pic online. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1750730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibc_Pain Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 well guys, this seemed to be a nice thread after all, Thank you all for great thinking and making me some more inspired 2 make a better model of ragnar, captmac your mini is just great!verry nice combo of bits and green stuff, given me some few idès!.. hoping 2 se him painted here soon! =) thank u again =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1753385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 with regards to the long fang model with one foot on the rock i've used his legs on the following model... hard to get hold of but the legs are chunkier and have added armour at the bottom so they look cool. http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp86/st...es/DSC00155.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1753692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptMac Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Hi there, That's me back from my holidays so I can get back to this RBM model. I've searched through my bit's box and the only old Devistator legs I could find were the ones pictured. I like the added "weight" on the legs but thier not going to add much in the way of dynamism that I was looking for...time for a bit of metal bending and filing, what do you guys think? http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/captmac/RBM6.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1756914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WG Vrox Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I agree that static pose of the Dev guy is not what your looking for but I do like the detail the legs offer, so would be interested in seeing what you do with them when you say metal bending. Another thought, maybe add some awards, purity seals, string of runes to the current legs before you start hacking on the dev's legs. Also the loin cloth was suggested which is a good idea. I think it would beef up the legs you have enough to make you happy. WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1756951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptMac Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Should I be doing this on a 40mm base? What do you guys think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 40mm base should be good....gives some room for making whatever he is standing on but not so much as to be a pain I would think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 If you're playing against some rules sticklers you might have a problem because you have to use the base supplied with the model, so 25mm would be what you would be "required" to use for those legs... but other than that I say go for 40mm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I thought the rules state just that it has to be on a base, not that they need to be on the base they are supplied with....and if someone says anything about it being on a 40mm base as opposed to a 25mm they are just being stupid but that is another topic lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I thought the rules state just that it has to be on a base, not that they need to be on the base they are supplied with....and if someone says anything about it being on a 40mm base as opposed to a 25mm they are just being stupid but that is another topic lol. Well the rulebook states that if you use a different base than the one the model was supplied with, then you need your opponent's permission. It's something that does make a difference in game though. Looking at a 40mm base you can fit more opponents around it's base, you can block more terrain (covering more ground to alter charges, LoS, many things) and that little bit of difference from the 25mm makes a difference to others. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptMac Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Ok I've had a play with him and cut up and re'jigged those devastator legs. I'm thinking that I'll take some of the skulls off his knees and then start painting...not sure about the loin cloth just because of the nice detail on the legs already. http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/captmac/RBM7.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 A thought if I may CaptMac....readjust his torso....he looks cockeye'd. I would straighten his upper half, otherwise looking good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Lookin really good, but you might want to lean him forward slightly. With all of the gear on his back, if he's leaning back at all it makes it look like the weight of the pelt is dragging him down lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I wouldn't change the angle too much. I really like it. Looks like he's walking up the slope after killing a bunch of orks. Very cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I don't know the last time you walked up a hill but most people lean forward at an appropriate angle to minimize the possibility of falling backwards. The second shot especially looks very awkward. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I don't know the last time you walked up a hill but most people lean forward at an appropriate angle to minimize the possibility of falling backwards. The second shot especially looks very awkward. I was thinking more of when you reach the top and you lean back to take in the view. Imagine all the carnage with the orks laying about the landscape. Breathtaking. He almost looks ready to howl. I like it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I don't know...that second pic has him looking like he is leaning sideways. For my howling guys I usually put the head on facing more upwards....I don't want to sound mean CaptMac...Grimfoe...it just looks off center to me, especially in that second pic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptMac Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Wow controversy, I have rejigged him again. I've leaned his torso forward slightly and stood him up straight. I know he's lost a bit of movement but hopefully when he's based I'll get it back. Is this better? http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/captmac/RBM8.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 He's looking really good! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/2/#findComment-1757362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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