Ranek Icewalker Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Ummm..... I may be wrong about this, but i'm pretty sure that Ragnar never grew any facial hair because that is a prrivelige reserved for Grey hunters, and he never became a Grey hunter, just a little bit of fluff that has been nagging at me as i read this thread, but then again i don't mind the Current ragnar model, the model is fine, just put him a decent pose, no warriors ever stand like that, but it is old, so give it a little wiggle room, and it might be redone when we get our Codex sometime next year, after may. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1785460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Oh dont be picky. They look awesome. Macs and the commision. Who'd you get it from. I may ask him to do one for me... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1785608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranek Icewalker Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 well i mean that they just might want to think about that when they are making their models, but they could also just wait for 9-12 months or when ever it is that our new dex and hopefully beautiful cool models and maybe they will make a better Ragnar model Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1785668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 well i mean that they just might want to think about that when they are making their models, but they could also just wait for 9-12 months or when ever it is that our new dex and hopefully beautiful cool models and maybe they will make a better Ragnar model That will likely cost 20$ or something ridiculous... ;) I can't wait none the less though for new wolf models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1785681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Sorry, Every wolf worth his pelt know's Ragnar is the only wolf lord never to have been a grey hunter. Having said that, there's no reason why a wolf lord (or wolfblade) wouldn't be allowed to grow facial hair. And since I'm playing him as a wolf lord... That not withstanding, he could be played as a 100 year old wolf lord at this point also...besides sideburns (mutton chops, lamb chops, whatever) look cool enough and hairy enough to still maintain the clean look while making him look wolfy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1785754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Oh dont be picky. They look awesome. Macs and the commision. Who'd you get it from. I may ask him to do one for me... Sorry, forgot to answer. Grytz is the guy's name. Here you go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1785782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranek Icewalker Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Well, my point was that growing facial hair is usually a priveledge reserved for grey hunters, and Ragnar never became one, so he did not grow facial hair, i know that it is very obvious, but i was pointing it out because when i looked at all of the custom models, i saw that they all had facial hair, and i was just saying that it was wierd, and also, I think that GW went with a chainsword to give him a more blood claw like feel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1786097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 ok Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1786298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Again, it just depends on which fluff you choose to follow. In the 2nd edition codex, Frostfang is clearly a large chainsword. Apparently this was not addressed in the Bill King novels. I remember that Ragnar didn't grow any facial hair because he was never a hunter. But would YOU try to stop him now if he wanted a beard? I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Both of your models look great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1786371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 believe it or not i like your ragnar model a bit more than Johnny's commision (although it is a fine model) because it seems to capture his spirit more than the GS sculpt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1786379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Jonny Wolf Re; the frost blade, frost blades aren't actually power weapons as such, they use the teeth from an ice kraken to replace the standradr teeth in a chainsword/chain axe so it would be similar in appearance to a chainsword. quote; Frost blade. These are one of the most prized ancient weapons... and they utilise the dimond-sharp fangs of the ice kraken as the teeth for thier chainsaw blades... Taken from the space wolf codex. Not nitpicking but i think if you got it sculpted as an ornate looking chainsword it would be more recognisable as ragnar, because at the moment its a lovely scupt but doesn't scream 'Ragnar' to me... just my 2 cents worth, your money so if you like it stick with it, it is awesome. And Captmac, love your conversion, a real labour of loveme thinks. Andy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1786650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Ragnar has blond hair (he is Norse i.e. a Swede- blond hair/blue eyes), his wold pelt is black (black fenris are the most badass and he killed one with a sharpened stick), he has no beard because he is young, his sword as wolf lord is a frostblade called Frostfang, which is written on the sword. Oh he was trained by Ulrick the Slayer not whats his name. William King books should not have been published with such blatant continuity errors. It shows laziness on his part to research and disrespect on the part of the current batch at GW for work that was done before them. The model looks incredible. This is how SW should look, highly individual and stylized. Great work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1789535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathjezter6 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 ragnar blackmane actually had black hair acording to the books. it was just a coinsidence that he also killed a wolf with black fur. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1789592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 ragnar blackmane actually had black hair acording to the books. it was just a coinsidence that he also killed a wolf with black fur. Well since the books have changed a few important details of his back story and created a never before mentioned unit the Wolfblades, well the books are... a nice read. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1789895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnar Hamundarson Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 All this discussion of Ragnar's hair color is useless, as is blaming Bill King for R's black hair. When the fig was originally released, Rag's hair was blonde. When 3rd ed Codex came out, his hair was black. Both were painted by GW's 'eavy metal team and both were in their contemporary codices - both were official Ragnars. All of Bill King's mistakes came later, but at least Ragnar's hair color wasn't one of them. It's just like bone-colored landraiders and dreads in a Dark Angels Deathwing army - they were originally green - it wasn't until folks started painting them bone at tournaments and GldnDmns (and folks liked them) that the fluff was changed and vehicles started being painted bone as well as the terminators, themselves. Doubt it? Look back through your collections of White Dwarf and Codices and look for a single bone dread or LR painted by the studio. Things change. That's all that happened with Rag's hair color, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1790336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Point to Gunnar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1790402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 All this discussion of Ragnar's hair color is useless, as is blaming Bill King for R's black hair. When the fig was originally released, Rag's hair was blonde. When 3rd ed Codex came out, his hair was black. Both were painted by GW's 'eavy metal team and both were in their contemporary codices - both were official Ragnars. All of Bill King's mistakes came later, but at least Ragnar's hair color wasn't one of them. It's just like bone-colored landraiders and dreads in a Dark Angels Deathwing army - they were originally green - it wasn't until folks started painting them bone at tournaments and GldnDmns (and folks liked them) that the fluff was changed and vehicles started being painted bone as well as the terminators, themselves. Doubt it? Look back through your collections of White Dwarf and Codices and look for a single bone dread or LR painted by the studio. Things change. That's all that happened with Rag's hair color, too. Too true. This is why I don't worry so much about the fluff. Use the fluff you want and change it where it suits you. These are TOY soldiers. Don't get too worked up. Make them and paint them the way you see fit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/149574-ragnar-blackmane-model/page/5/#findComment-1790417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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