A new Wolf

[RustyWolf]

Hello all. I have been preparing my armies (or at least planning my armies) for a few years now. I originally had Tau, but sold them to a friend to get more SP. My father has instilled a love of the Wolves in me after seeing his codexes and the SW novels. He uses SW stuff to make his own chapter, the Death Cats, and I am hoping to create a chapter that I am calling a successor to the SW, if only to use BC, Rune Priests, WG, and field wolf packs. If my fluff can do enough justice to the Wolves, I will officially declare it a successor.

 

At the moment, my army consists of:

 

1 Grey Knight Terminator that is being converted to be a company champion

1 Rune Priest

1 Blood Claw Pack

1 Tactical Squads

1 Land Raider

 

Also, since I have heard so many rumors of a new Codex, I'm holding off until it happens. Because of this, I have a question. I have looked to many sites, and some are telling me that Blood Claws are a Fast Attack choice. Because no one else around here plays SW, and none of the stores here have an older Codex, I don't know if this is correct. I also can't contact my dad to see because he is on his second tour of duty in Iraq in the past 6 years, and the first one took 3. Please make me happy by telling me that Blood Claws are troops.

[Grey Mage]

Bloodclaws are not a fast attack choice. They are a troops choice, but you have to have a unit of Greyhunters in your army *1+*

 

Blood Claw BIKERS are. The unit sizes are very different, though many of the options are the same. Also, these bikers are our only jump pack troops.

 

Also... if you want to play as a Space wolf jump in now. Why not? Get yourself some more basic troops... another unit of grey hunters come to mind... and your good to go. The new codex stuff has been a rumor every year for the past four years... thats a really old joke.

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

you should be able ton find a copy of the SW codex by e-mailing the Canada GW guys.

Blood Claws can be troops and fast attack choices, the SW book tell the differences.

SW do NOT have company champions.

SW do NOT have tactical squads.

the SW codex is not rumored to be released till late 09, so you might want to either start now or consider a different, more GW loved CHapter.

 

the faqs on top of the page are a good place to start.

 

welcome to the fang.

 

wolf lord kieran

[Dark Bjoern]

Welcome to the Fang, Whelp.

 

First of all, we had have only one successor chapter, the Wolf Brothers, and they had have a geneseed defect that leads to their doom. Now they are counting as dead/lost in the warp. Cause our geneseed is seen as unstable (the grow of our canines) and the accident with the Wolf Brothers, the High Lords didn´t use it to create other successor chapters.

But we have our own version of them. We call them the Lost Companies. That´s companies who had decided to leave the Fang for some reasons, may it be that they see a mission not finished or they disagree with the Great Wolf. Those Lost Companies roam around the galaxy to fight the enemies of the Imperium. They are not renegades and they still can request support from imperial institutions. But they lack the technology and know how to recruit new aspirant. That means that they´re forced return to the Fang for resupplying or they will decline.

 

You need at least one pack of GH cause they are a 1+ choise. and to be honest GH are great. They are the backbone of our chapter. BC are a troop choise. I think they meant BC bikes, who are a fast attack choise. A pack of BCs is a good choise but i think many of my fellow wolf will agree with me that GH are a must-have for a SW army. So a good mix of GH and BC packs is recommended.

We don´t have tac squads, we have GH packs. Our GH packs can´t get heavy weapons, but they can get additionally special ccws like power weapons or power fists. Our GH packs are more flexible then a tac squad.

You can´t field wolf packs in a SW list. You can add up to four wolfs to an IC but that´s it. If you want to field wolf packs you should look for the 13th Company list from the Codex: Eye of Terror. But they don´t have BC. The 13th Co. works a bit different then a normal SW army. For example you can´t use vehicles in a 13th Co. list. The packs are different from C:SW and so on.

[RustyWolf]

First, I thank you all for answering my question.

 

Second, I realize the problems present with a successor chapter, but I also realize the possible ways around them, like the Cursed Founding. My original idea was that the chapter was an attempt to deal with the genetic instability. But it should be mentioned that the Wolf Brothers were the only known chapter created during the Second Founding. It seems a little strange that where other legions had several chapters made from them, the SW only had 1.

 

As I said, I'm basically calling them a "successor" so I can use some of the SW units. As for Grey Hunters, I haven't decided whether to incorporate them as possible "upgraded" tactical squads. Although if I can make the fluff believable, I could field SW units anyways and just say they are a completely new chapter, or that they have SW-like canines because of a mutation because they are from the cursed founding. Either way, I want to use SW units without it being a SW army.

[Dark Bjoern]

You have to decide what codex you want to use. If you want to use SW units you have to play a SW army, other wise your list isn´t legal.

[Wolf89]

Tiger posted a version of his "space wolves" in the normal marine list section (since he used the new C:SM instead of C:SW) and I didn't like it at all, but he uses his space wolf models and all so, whatever if you want to use them fine, but I think lost chapters using our C:SW is much better...

[Dark Bjoern]

I´m aware that he can use the models without using C:SW. I meant the rulewise mixing up is not allowed as long as it is not mentioned otherwise (codex, FAQ...).

[Wolf89]

I´m aware that he can use the models without using C:SW. I meant the rulewise mixing up is not allowed as long as it is not mentioned otherwise (codex, FAQ...).

 

Wasn't really responding to your post, just a general ideal about using the C:SM.

 

You are right that you can't mix them also, wasn't contesting that.

[RustyWolf]

As long as you have a viable reason and you opponent agrees to your list, you can use just about anything. Power swords aren't a viable option for a Dreadnaught CC weapon, but one the guys in the Warhammer club here has made is plausible enough for the rest of us to let him. I realize that in a sanctioned event, this is not the case, but I'm really only doing this stuff for fun and a creative outlet.

[Wolf89]

As long as you have a viable reason and you opponent agrees to your list, you can use just about anything. Power swords aren't a viable option for a Dreadnaught CC weapon, but one the guys in the Warhammer club here has made is plausible enough for the rest of us to let him. I realize that in a sanctioned event, this is not the case, but I'm really only doing this stuff for fun and a creative outlet.

 

Why would you give a power weapon to a dread when he already has a power weapon equivalent at S10?... ^_^

[RustyWolf]

I have found a way to make my chapter in a similar way to what I was originally going for without having to go through the trouble of making up a reason why the SW geneseed had been used in the Cursed Founding, but only after I had already spent several hours creating said reason. I may continue with that idea, or use my new one, depending on what some of the other SM players in the Warhammer club here think. Thank you all for your help with my questions, and look for the Wolves Of Iron chapter in the Liber Atartes forums. I will post my backstory and potential special characters within the month.

[OnlyInDeath]

quiiiiiiiiiiiiiick note. There IS an "iron" great company, which you can use to represent any mechanized or heavy mechanized great company that you wish...and you woudl join the likes of me in that ::shudder::

[Wolf89]

quiiiiiiiiiiiiiick note. There IS an "iron" great company, which you can use to represent any mechanized or heavy mechanized great company that you wish...and you woudl join the likes of me in that ::shudder::

 

My mech wolves were the Iron Wolves and had the "studded" wolf head... they did amazing in 4th... not as good as my 13th co. though... nothing was that good...