captain maximus Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 TEST MINI! http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii71/chaplin-isaac/P1003261.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii71/chaplin-isaac/P1003260.jpg http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii71/chaplin-isaac/P1003257.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Mos Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Everything is so bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain maximus Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 your point? was that post even constructive and conforming to the topic at hand? anyways, the white has been shaded. i'll post pics in a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liltom Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I think so. Between the lack of shading in the pic and the stark lighting, you can see two things to improve from his post. Deffo constructive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain maximus Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii71/chaplin-isaac/P1003263.jpg new pic, with shading. thanks linton, sorry mos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironloki Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I would try and add some depth/dirtyness to the silver you are currently using. I use flesh wash ink to give metals some depth. It's really simple and effective. However I don't think you can get flesh wash anymore (due to the new washes) but there is bound to be a wash that can help darken up those metallics. Also are you doing a fully split colour scheme? his chest/groin seem to be pure white. If you make the scheme 50/50 I would say your onto a winner. Split schemes always get extra kudos :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain maximus Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 tried to, unfortunatley the biker was glued when i got him, and it wouldn't wrk, so yeah, half and almost half...and i have flesh wash, but its my precious....my precious...for skin recipe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain maximus Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 shaded and redone white biker. finished now http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii71/chaplin-isaac/P1003271.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gil galed Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 i think that the white side could use some braking up, like say painting his hands blue or th shoulder trim blue or knee pad or something, will brake up the uniform color a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain maximus Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 why? the scheme is meant to be half blue/ half white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ompfris Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I would try and add some depth/dirtyness to the silver you are currently using. I use flesh wash ink to give metals some depth. It's really simple and effective. I used the Badab Black wash over the engine and exhausts on my bikes, made the metal look a lot duller, like a real engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morte Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 The most beneficial thing you could do to the mini now is to strip the paint and start again. It looks like you've undercoated the entire thing white and just painted half of it in a single thick shade of blue whilst leaving the white side as is. Try a darker coat, and build up the white half of the marine from highlights. If you want a "pure-white" look that GW does, build from shadow grey > space wolf grey > skull white layers. If you want a dustier, more gritty look, go from codex grey > fortress grey > skull white. In general if you're painting bright colors the common misconception is that you have to start with the lightest shade you possibly can because the pigments in brighter colors aren't as strong as darker ones. Instead, what makes bright colors bright is the CONTRAST; a careful look at most minis will show you that the actual parts of the model that are the lightest shade are actually restricted to edges and highlights, whilst a much darker shade covers the rest of the model. Thus, a model that seems "white" is mostly grey, with well blended white highlights (thus starting with the darkest shade and blending). This model tends to look much "brighter" and has more depth than a model that has simply been undercoated white (ie. starting with the lightest shade) Same principle with the blue portions. Start with a dark blue shade or a foundation blue, and then work your way up to the enchanted blue shade you seem to be going for. You'll find that the amount of enchanted blue/ultramarine blue is actually a lot less than a darker shade, like regal blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain maximus Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 so..you think the mini sucks. i work with what i have, and that was the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 so..you think the mini sucks. i work with what i have, and that was the result. You're not taking constructive criticism well, it seems. The poster you were referring to gave A LOT of very valid points and if you try out his described techniques, you'll see that the figure will look a lot more complete. Regarding "I work with what I have": Fair point. Still, he was trying to help you improve your skills. and it looks like he went out of his way to help you... Your post (the one I quoted) seems negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 "For success, attitude is equally as important as ability." - Harry F. Banks. Your lack of ability to take constructive criticism is going to get you into some tough positions here. If you want to have everyone come into the post and say what a wonderful model it is, paint something Golden Deamon quality, until then, learn to respect other people's opinions rather than just disregarding them like dirt. My $0.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossco Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 C'mon gents, lets keep it friendly ! Captain maximus, here on the B&C we regularly offer each other constructive criticism and those with the greatest wealth of knowlege often take time to offer help to those of us who don't have quite that amount of experience, Having said that those same people are equally open to the suggestions of others and accept suggestions and ideas gratefully. Here at the B&C you will find many very talented people, and more than a few Golden Deamon winners, they offer their advice completely free and are well worth taking the time to listen to, people here have improved my skills immeasurably and for that I am eternally gratefull (Thanks guys !) NOBODY here wants to upset you or slate your efforts they just want to help you improve, we really are all friends here ! To anyone else, lets just take it easy, criticism can be hard to take. Especially when we've poured heart and soul into something. I'm actually very proud to be a member of the B&C and the main reasons for that are the cammeraderie and the positve ethos we have here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJL Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 its a good first start, the main hints i could give would be to clean up the areas that you have painted by accident, like the black trim around the front wheel arch and the handle bar guard. its hard to tell as the picture is a little blury, but if you have a black wash handy, i might use it to go over the metalic parts, and water it down to go over the blue, it will blend the areas where different color paints meet quite well. and make sure you get into all of the cracks as well with your paint, or youll have white bits shining through your blue as seen in the first pic you posted. good job so far, dont stop now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain maximus Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 C'mon gents, lets keep it friendly ! Captain maximus, here on the B&C we regularly offer each other constructive criticism and those with the greatest wealth of knowlege often take time to offer help to those of us who don't have quite that amount of experience, Having said that those same people are equally open to the suggestions of others and accept suggestions and ideas gratefully. Here at the B&C you will find many very talented people, and more than a few Golden Deamon winners, they offer their advice completely free and are well worth taking the time to listen to, people here have improved my skills immeasurably and for that I am eternally gratefull (Thanks guys !) NOBODY here wants to upset you or slate your efforts they just want to help you improve, we really are all friends here ! To anyone else, lets just take it easy, criticism can be hard to take. Especially when we've poured heart and soul into something. I'm actually very proud to be a member of the B&C and the main reasons for that are the cammeraderie and the positve ethos we have here. thank you rossco. personally, i took the critisism well, it was just they way he put his first paragraph... i realize some people are good paintiers. i apologize for how i stated my reply to morte. thank you all for the constructive crit. i take it in well, and i thank you for the time you spent writing it. i'll get cracking on some other marines soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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