ncervellati Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Greetings again everyone!! With the printing of the new marine codex I finally decided to experiment with one of the colours I like the most: brown!! I'm aware that there's some kind of mistrust out there towards the brown marines, but I'd like to prove myself that they can exist, and can also be cool :lol: . Of course I have to create a new chapter, which at the moment is called "Shrieking Ravens". The name is the result of the SM name generator that I found here on B&C, and sounded quite right to me from the beginning. Having thought nothing about its history, fluff or anything else, this name suggested me to use Raven Guard iconography (i.e. chapter symbol). My first test miniature was a AoBR terminator which I found in WD, and here are the results: http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8620/panoramavu8.th.jpg As you can see, I was thinking of white hands to distinguish veterans. The base still needs to be finished, of course. I normally paint the bases on their own, this one was glued in place only to take the photo. If anyone is interested I can post recipes for the colours. I will post the complete range of test marines created with the SM painter as well, so you can see the differences between normal marines, veterans and sergeants. Next on my workbench are 5 tactical marines and 1 captain. Let me know what you think, C&C needed!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewolf74727 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 they do look quite good being brown kind of looks like NNM bronze the white and bone go well with the colour BlueWolf74727 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1746537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncervellati Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 Thanks bluewolf74727!! Here you are the SM painter attempts. These should give you a rough idea what I am aiming to: Terminator http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4876/terminatornu8.th.jpg Tactical Marine http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4196/spacemarinetatticoun6.th.jpg Veteran Marine http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7980/spacemarineveteranovf3.th.jpg Veteran Sergeant http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2697/sergenteveterano4kv9.th.jpg Do you think that some parts can be improved? My only concern at the moment is that maybe normal veteran marines couldn't stand out enough with only white hands, but I guess that only a couple test miniatures coud answer the question. Cheers!! Nicola Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1746555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brambleten Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 to my surprise, i like the brown scheme, i think its done well and has a lot of contrast in it. perhaps to distinguish veterans a bit more you could paint one shin guard white as well? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1746558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewolf74727 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 you could paint the veterans head like that serrgeant then add gold to part of the sergeants head to make him stand out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1746611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Gabriel Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I'm not so sure I'm sold on the blue helmet of the vet sergeant, looks a little too electric in contrast to the rest of the model (which I am surprised to find I think the brown looks amazing). perhaps a gold stripe on the head of the vet sergeant (lined in black or brown) would look good. just my two cents, great models and general colour scheme overall :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1746620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Gothard Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Okay I give! What's the recipe for the Brown?!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1746647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alys Dwr Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 To make veterans stand out you could paint the tac marines helmets brown. Then the white helmets will jump out in your army. I like the brown, I've always wanted to give it a go but i'm colourblind and find it difficult to highlight+shade brown correctly. Your looks very nice though. Al Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1746659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 As the differently coloured hands work great with crimson fists i don't think there is going to be a problem with your scheme. If you think hands alone aren't enough do what Alys Dwr said and paint the tactical marine's helmets brown. I like the blue on the seargents helmet and the shade of bown you've picked. looks great so far. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1746780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanimal Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Ive always thought brown would look cool and it does as for the sarge think the blue looks great, keep the white lids for the vets but maybe a white stripe on the tac marines? stays with the scheme and keeps them looking strikeing Vanimal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1746793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 In general, I really dislike brown, but I think you've pulled this off very well. I would offer that I prefer the toned down brown (TDB ) effect that you captured in the SM Painter vs. your first attempt. If you like that idea, you might try adding a little Codex Grey to your brown mix to soften the yellow effect of your current version. Anyway, good work and I look forward to seeing them develop. P.S. Count me as one who is not to crazy about the blue helmet. Cheers, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1747168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialTemplari Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Hi ncervellati, not a bad scheme, have seen a few brown schemes lately, i think the blue helmet for sergeants works personally, it will be a good scheme me thinks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1747183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ompfris Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Never thougth a brown marine whould look so good! - nice whites on the Helmet and Power fist aswel! you just need a symbol for that shoulder pad and he is set! as for making the Vets stand out more I would paint both shins white, including the sgt (he can keep his blue helm) if you think it would look to plain - so much white, you could lag it in text or kill count etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1747210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonclaw Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 gotta agree never thought brown marines would look cool but guy you've done it :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1747440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncervellati Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thanks everyone for your nice comments, I really appreciate your feedback :( . As far as the veteran colours are concerned I'm sure only a test miniature will tell. So I will suspend my decision till one is painted. I forgot to mention that all sergeants will have beaky heads. At the moment I still think I'll go with the blue for their helmets. The first tactical squad is 30% completed, we'll see how it goes quite soon. @Brother Gohard The recipe for the brown is: - Undercoat black - Scorched Brown - Badab black wash all over - 1st highlight with scorched brown again - 2nd highlight with 50% scorched brown + 50% bestial brown - 3rd highlight (only on the very edges) bestial brown Doing the tactical marines though I think I have to agree with Honda, it tends to get quite yellowish. I am thinking of dropping the 3rd highlight and stop at the second, which has a more darker tone. Perhaps a bit less striking. As told in my first post I was thinking to use Raven Guard iconography (or at least chapter symbol), but I am still pondering other options. I do like winged stuff and I thought: what about using ravenwing shoulderpads on normal marines as chapter symbol instead? Pros: less problems with decals or freehanding the raven guard symbol; painting a textured pad is much easier and perhaps the final result stands out a bit more Cons: need of buying tens of those pads on ebay or bits shops; for obvious reasons there's no ravenwing terminator shoulder pads available anywhere, so some freehanding/decal is still needed Any thoughts? Cheers Nicola Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1748142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Well, I like your brown attempt. Though, I think you should change the thread title...or subtitle.. not "my attempt" more like. "mastered the brown technique. Check it out yo." Thats a great looking termie. If you decide to go with them I could possibly trade you 14 give or take, ravenwing shoulderpads. (a couple are the ones with the skull instead of sword) If you need them, hit me up! (Also, check out my LR Exterminus =-D(I'm trying to get as much publicity now so I'll have it later on)) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150282-shrieking-ravens/#findComment-1748398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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