Cypher

[Zealot Of Chaos]

I have just unearthed my old Cypher model and think hes a cool character, maybe not worth the points but amusing to play nonetheless, but the only rules sets I have for him are from the codex he appeared in and the GW suppliment Heroes and Villains, I know a set of rules was published in a White Dwarf a while ago but are they the same as the Heroes and Villains or are they different?

and I know that I would have to ask my opponents permission beforehand but I would like to make a little force for the unofficial 5th god Malal using sons of malice and since no-one knows which deity keeps saving Cypher and that he can also fight for the IG (never understood that one) I would like to use him as my HQ if possible, just need to know which rules are most up to date

thanks

[Iron-Daemon Forge]

Seeing as the new UK GW site ubber rubbish (not really pay attasion to USA side thing). I can't rememeber the White Dwarf issue No however if your from the UK. The White Dwarf was when lizermen just came back out around the 6th Ed era of WFB. Also had a battle report of Black Templars vs Word Bearer with a Battle Fleet gothic game after words & also had a WFB battle with Lizermen vs Skaven.

 

Also round the time the 13th Black Crusade started. Hope this helps you out.

 

IP

[chillin]

I think you will probably just have to use an undivided chaos lord w/ plas pistol most times or a s/m capt w/ plas pistol if you want to use the s/m s dex, unless the guys you play with are very liberal when it comes to homegrown rules stuff, as all the Cypher stuff is quite old and none of it really matches this ed. (then again neither do SW's and DE).

 

I like the idea of Malal being the unknown force that kept saving Cypher's butt for unknown reasons :lol:

I say roll with it reguardless of how you do it.

[Mal]

well apart from the funky VP rules ll you need to do is allow him to use the same rules as WH sephrim, i.e. be able to fire with 2 pistols and use both in CC giving him +1A (since he NEVER draws the Lions sword)...

 

I have that model also, and I am thinking of putting him into a DA army, and calling them Fallen.

[Zealot Of Chaos]

for anyone interested I found out that his latest rule set is the same as the heroes and villains topic in white dwarf 280 - 282 (depending on where you are from) which also makes him an elites choice instead of an HQ so I'll either have to get express permission to use him as HQ instead of Elite or take him as undivided lord and tweak as much as possible

thanks for all the input and the pm's very helpful :D