Sons of Horus Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 well we all know how powerful the Furious Abyss was and that it was designed specifically to annihilate an entire legion of astartes. so my question is this, did abaddon base the Planet Killer from it? i mean they are simialr in many ways right? technically the same purpose as well. so again, do you think that it served as a template for the Planet Killer? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150687-the-furious-abyss/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokunator Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 As far as I have gathered from the novel, everyone involved in building the ship was killed either at the beginning of the novel when theWord Bearers destroy the docks or at the end when the ship was destroyed, so there is probably no connection to the Planet Killer. Besides, if Abbadon had known in M31 how to build such a ship, he wouldn't have waited 10.000 years before building it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150687-the-furious-abyss/#findComment-1751761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raulmichile Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Besides, if Abbadon had known in M31 how to build such a ship, he wouldn't have waited 10.000 years before building it. Maybe he was weighing the prons and cons of constructing it... :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150687-the-furious-abyss/#findComment-1751949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razrhaghul Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 eh, didn't Abbadabbadon have to use some crazy magical artifacts to power the planet killer, something that while it being the word bearers, probably wouldn't have had access to use, that or technology was a bit more refined. as for the Abyss thing, i didn't really read the book, the story synopsis sounded far fetched, even for 40k, so i really can't comment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150687-the-furious-abyss/#findComment-1752153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I just assumed that the furious abyss was roughly equivalent in power to a 40k ship, it's just that 10k years before everything else was weaker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150687-the-furious-abyss/#findComment-1752159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonaides Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I'd have to suggest that, in general, technology is in decline at the moment - so its more likely that a heresy era ship would be better than its 40k equivalent... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150687-the-furious-abyss/#findComment-1752236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 From what I've understood of it all the Furious Abyss wasn't really on par with the Planet Killer at all. After all the FA was basically just a normal big ship with extremely reinforced hull/protection and a great deal more guns/missiles. After all their greatest power was in the element of shock and surprise since the Ultramarines knew nothing about Psychic powers/summoning Daemons . You have to remember that at the time it happened they had no idea what was about to hit them, neither had they any real experience dealing with the things mentioned above since Daemons where told off as ridiculous humbug and Psychic powers or even presence wasn't something wildly encountered . TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150687-the-furious-abyss/#findComment-1752245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 actually most of the tech during the GC and HH were much better and stronger than the tech being used now. the main reason for this is that during the GC and HH, most of their equipment was based of STCs which were later lost due to varying reasons. STCs = nearly perfect equipment ;) anyway you guys are probably right about the two ships being unrelated. thanks ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150687-the-furious-abyss/#findComment-1752765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Evar Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I have no recollection of current Imperial ships being equiped with plasma lances like the FA. :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150687-the-furious-abyss/#findComment-1754049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imriel Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 eh, didn't Abbadabbadon have to use some crazy magical artifacts to power the planet killer, something that while it being the word bearers, probably wouldn't have had access to use, that or technology was a bit more refined.as for the Abyss thing, i didn't really read the book, the story synopsis sounded far fetched, even for 40k, so i really can't comment. I believe your confussing the Planet Killer and the Blackstone Fortress. The fortress was the ancient weapon Abbadon activated with an artifact. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/150687-the-furious-abyss/#findComment-1754589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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