Actual Scale Captain Orar (using Doghouse's Tutorial)

[Pig Of Sparta]

Hi all, having lurked in a few of the truescaling threads for a while i stumbled across Doghouse's actual scale marine tutorial and since i had a load of terminator bits kicking around thought i'd give it a try. At the moment i don't have a sculpting tool for working with greenstuff so i haven't filled in the panels between the bracing on the back of the termie legs yet, but that will get done in due course. I have followed up to the last update for the torso though.

 

While waiting for the next update i decided to throw myself into trying to find a way to cover the gap between the torso and belt with the minimum of greenstuff, this is what i came up with:

 

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/A-1.jpg

 

obiously there is still work to be done blending the centre plate into the chest, but since the greenstuff is still curing that'll have to wait till tommorrow. I'm not sure about the lower plate though, I was aiming for some kind of artificer restored mark III or IV armour but i don't know if it fits in too well.

 

please take a look and add any comments or criticisms you might have

 

thanks

[Asmodeus' Swordhand]

I like it. looks bulky.

[Pig Of Sparta]

thanks, i'm still not entirely sure about the lower armour plate but the middle one is definately staying.

[Asmodeus' Swordhand]

currently it makes the waist look skinny. I've had that problem before. It helps if you slim down the hips, but the hip plates look nice. I would suggest elevating the torso a little.

[Pig Of Sparta]

Cheers Asmodeus, I'll try making him taller and hopefully post a pic later today.

[Ompfris]

Cant wait to see the new pics, are you GS - ing the legs?

I'm not overly keen on the middle so far (I just 'plonked' my torso ontop the legs with out and gs) If it helps here is a link to my first true scale attempt

[Pig Of Sparta]

As you can see from the pics below, I've attempted to blend the middle plate into the chest plate, my aim being to have it look like they are on and the same. It'll need some tidying up when the GS is dry. I took your advice Asmodeus made him a bit taller at the waist using another termie waist joint that i filed down to fit.

 

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/C-1.jpg

 

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/D.jpg

 

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/E.jpg

 

At the moment Ompfris I'm torn between GSing the legs and leaving them, mainly because I don't have a sculpting tool, but also because i figure some older suits of power armour might have bracing around the legs. the other idea I had I saw on someone else's WIP (I can't remember who, but credit goes to them) was to us GS to put ribs on the back of the legs like mk III armour has, but again, lack of scultping tool makes this tricky just now. I am going to buy one, just need to scrape some funds together.

[Ompfris]

Hey he does look much better being that little taller! as for the gs on the legs... I dont own a sculpting tool either I used the craft knife but if you looked at my thread its no where near as smooth as it could of been.

 

keep up with it and im sure he's gonna look good wich ever way you go.

[Pig Of Sparta]

ok, so having let the greenstuff dry and played about with some arms i realised that in making the walking maring taller his waist looked too thin. so for the time being i've switched legs as you'll see in the photo below. if i can get a hold of some more walking legs i might switch back to them but i kinda like the look of what i did tonight. I did want the marine to be pointing at something, like he was giving orders or had spotted something, but despite playing with some hands and arms i couldn't get it to look quite right, so this is what i'll probably go with:

 

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/F.jpg

 

as usual, please let me know what you think...

 

James

[mr dee]

i like him, looks baddass...for one of the "emperors" lot that is ;):D

[Pig Of Sparta]

cheers mr dee.... is that dee for daemonic by any chance?

[Dorns Padawan]

That is a decent attempt you made there. Once you bulk out the legs with some GS it will look a lot more menacing and also a lot more to scale. Like what you have done for the chest, if you scratched of the winged skull and smoothed it out with some GS, it would look kinda like MK III power armour. Apart from that, it looks super!

[Pig Of Sparta]

It's funny you should say that Dorns Padawan, I was thinking the same thing. Might also try him with a couple of different heads, say mk vi or maybe a crusader helm. I'd like to try giving him a pre-heresey style backpack too.

[Pig Of Sparta]

No pics of today's work yet I'm afraid, but i've filled in the gaps on the front the terminator shoulder guards, I want to extend the shoulder guards down to the wee tabs at the bottom as well I think, but if I do it'll have to wait for today's greenstuff to cure.

I'm currently torn between 'modern' or pre-heresy shoulder guards so i'm not sure whether to add the banding around the edges or not.

I've also built up the ball joint at the waist slightly using greenstuff to cover the gaps between the chest and abdomen and finally i've tried to smoothe the transition from the fron to back plates on the chest piece as the join was still a bit rough.

[Lamenter]

I'm really liking that chest plate design. Think I'll be borrowing that at some point.

[Pig Of Sparta]

By all means please do that Lamenter, the lower chest plate is one of the c/c terminator crotch plates and copious amounts of greenstuff.

[Pig Of Sparta]

Right, so in the last couple of days I've done a few things so bear with me. I filed away the chest eagle to leave a plain armour plate and cleaned up the greenstuff on the shoulder pads. Decided against extending them down, so I trimmed off the wee 'tabs' on the bottom of each one, I figure they look about right as is.

Thanks goes out to Doghouse for his help, i couldn't figure out how to sort the back plate of the chest armour out. I think I've been a bit over zealous with my cutting and filing, but hopefully i can greenstuff away the damage. So now my marine has a neck guard and the backpack attachment point is in place as well.

Finally I filled in the armour plating for the legs. It's not the best but hopefully when painted up it will look good.

 

So on to the pics:

 

from the front

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/K.jpg

 

the back:

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/G.jpg

 

the left side:

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/I.jpg

 

and off to one side:

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/H.jpg

 

as you can see I swapped his head to a BT crusader helm, I figure it looks reasonably passable as either a mk iii one or an artificer crafted later one.

 

as always, please let me know what you think, btw I appologise for the poor focus on a couple of the pics, my battery was dying so I had to rush the last couple.

 

James

[marine]

looks awesome, not sure if I prefer it now or before though

[Pig Of Sparta]

thanks Marine. I think i might try and come up with something to go on the chestplate to make it a little less plain.

[RazakelXIII]

I loooove it. :D However (probably too late now), the torso looks waaay too long in comparison to his legs (that or the legs look too short in comparison to his torso... :lol: ). Also, I think the pads do need to be extended down - the arms just look a bit funky, and I think it did look a bit better before you shaved off the tabs. Otherwise, well done, especially on the leg plating. :)

[Pig Of Sparta]

Yay! i'm nearly finished with the build. :lol: I believe I've now corrected the too tallness of the waist by bringing it back to how it was before and repairing the damage I did to the back plate with greenstuff. (I'm actually starting to almost enjoy working with the stuff!)

 

I've decided to leave the shoulder guards the way the are, mainly cause I can't be bothered to try and pry them off the arms and lengthen them. I know they look a little strange, but I think (hope) that the more you see them the more you learn to love them :devil:

 

It's at the point now where I'm 99% happy with it, and I'm afraid to do more incase I spoil it....(how many of us have been there before?)

 

But without further ado, the pics:

 

front with banner

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/M.jpg

 

back with banner

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/O.jpg

 

front with iron halo

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/L.jpg

 

back with iron halo

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/N.jpg

 

I'm thinking of painting both backpacks up, as well as two or three different heads and seeing which look best on the finished mini. As for the chest, i thought of using a transfer to put an aquila there, like it's been semi-hastily stencilled on in a field workshop on some emperor forsaken backwater during the heresy/scouring.

 

that's all for now folks, next update will hopefully have some paint on the mini...

 

as always though, please let me know what you think, all commnts and criticisms welcome

 

James

[Ironblood]

I would stick some grenades or pouches along the sides and back of the torso. In my opinion it looks a little bit too thin where the torso meets the legs. Other than that I really like how it turned out.

[Dorns Padawan]

I really like what you have done since i last looked and posted! Ok a couple of constructive crits... make sure you remove the mould line on the top of the bolter before you start painting. Have you glued the head on yet? I guessing that you have a BT upgrade box? I think a maximus helmet would suit it better though this helmet looks good too. I think the chest needs slightly bulking out tbh. He just looks a little on the lean side compared to everything else. If you added a thin layer of GS over what you already have then it would look excellent. Also i would add some more to the waist (at the rear below the power pack) cause he looks a little slim! Apart from those little things, i really like what you got there, the legs look pretty sweet too! Great job! You gonna do anymore?

[Pig Of Sparta]

Thanks for your comments guys, I just happen to have some frag grenades with this marine's name on them, and I'm gonna try and dig out some krak ones too, possibly a couple of pouches aswell.

 

Dorns padawan I do have a maximus head knocking about, but it's painted, still a couple of hours in some watered down dettol will fix that. ;) I think I'll paint up that one, the one from the photo and the 'crusader' one from the previous pics and see which looks best... maybe even a bare head aswell.

 

I've got some chaos terminator parts lying around so I was thinking of doing a chaos marine as well, I need to get some more greenstuff first, I'm running kind of low, and I'm definately going to invest in a sculpting tool, mine at the moment consist of a stanley knife and a paint brush with the bristles cut off! If i do it'll get posted here don't worry. As for doing anymore of these guys, I don't really have the time to sit and make up loads of these, I really need to get on with painting my 'regular' marines, but who knows what the future might bring.

 

By the way, which back pack do you think looks best? I'm going to paint 'em both, but as I've said before I'm not a huge fan of banners on marines but I think this one works.... let me know what you think, and as always, any c&c is welcome

 

James

[Pig Of Sparta]

You gonna do anymore?

 

I've thought about it and I'm definately gonna do a chaos marine in this scale, so keep your eyes peeled for pics of this next project. I stripped the paint off the mk vi helmet tonight, so I'm going to paint that one, the 'crusader' one (i like to think of it as a modified mk iii although I know technically its a mk vii) and the sergeant's one from the photos.