Warphead Attacks

[Redleg]

Can somebody confirm if my interpretation of this is correct?

 

1) A Warphead starts the player turn (and Warphead's movement phase) attached to a unit.

2) The Ork player keeps the Warphead attached to the Ork unit during the Movement Phase.

3) At the start of the Shooting Phase, Warphead rolls for his psychic power and gets Frazzle or Zzap and targets a Space Marine Unit.

 

Since the Warphead is attached to that unit, the rest of his Ork unit must fire at the same target Space Marine unit, right?

Additionally...since neither Frazzle or Zzap are Assault powers, his entire unit would not be able to charge into an Assault that turn, correct?

 

Finally...this would seem to make things more "difficult" for the Ork player than I first thought. At the start of the movement phase, the Ork player needs to commit if the Independant Character Warphead is part of another unit or not. Then after all movements are made, the Warphead rolls for his power and could get a result that doesn't help the unit at all or doesn't "work" with the turn's strategy.

 

And I close on this?

 

Thanks

[WarpSpawn]

I'd say that's all correct, yes.

 

Just goes with the territory when you attach a model as random as a weirdby to a unit I guess.

[Mal]

thats all right, with the exception of assaulting after usinf frazzle and zzap, its true neither have teh assault description in their profile, but neither have rapid fire or heavy, or any other rule that prevents them from firing and assaulting, after all pistols dont have the assault weapon rule either.

 

For rules reference check P.33 of the BBB under the heading Disallowed Assaults, it clearly lists the reasons you cannot assault and the only one pertaining to shooting is when having shot rapid fire or heavy weapons.

[Souchan]

Actually pistols DO mention that they are assault 1.

 

However with the absense of any qualifier, I do say they can still assault after using psychic powers as psychic powers do not stop assaulting, nor do they possess any of the types that are also barred from it. I checked the FAQ, it makes mention that they have a couple exceptions form the normal shooting rules, this is likely one of them(though that doesn't really tell us much). I see no other mentions of them beyond firing from a vehicle(which they may) so I really see no reason to say no. Besides, how unorky would it be to not attack(i know some of the units can't after shooting, just go with the joke :P )

[WarpSpawn]

Yeah, you're right actually, you can assault after firing them. You don't even need to look for loopholes in the rules for weapon types and assaulting (it would make the inclusion of the word "assault a bit pointless if the absense any weapon type meant you could assault anyway). There's one little nugget of information that we have all so far overlooked. Page 50 of the BRB, under "Psychic shooting attacks" includes this line:

 

Using a psychic shooting attack counts as firing a ranged weapon (an assault weapon unless specified otherwise).

 

The ork codex does not specify otherwise, therefore they are assault weapons.

[Redleg]

Thanks for all the help. I re-read the Psyker portion also looking for more info...

 

It specifically says that all Psyker Shooting Attacks are Assault unless otherwise mentioned.