ChaosLord Leon Enaek Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hi, guys! Question; If the Emperor really WAS a great enough father to make Fulgrim cry when Horus said 'Oh, he left us, let's smash some pricless murals and statues and start a war', why didn't he tell the Primarch, his own SONS his name? I mean, for The Emperor's Sake, give us a name to us, 'cause For The Emperor's Sake is too long to keep typing (where as 'For Bob's Sake...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 The Primarchs may well have known his real name, as might the Custodes, but they would never use it in front of anyone except their Brother Primarchs. "Anyone" includes us as an audience. "The Emperor" would be far more awe-inspiring to the common people than "And here, to lead our armies in victorious battle, is The Emperor of Mankind, Fred!" :unsure: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1762765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulrak Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Mr C. Norris :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1763053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razrhaghul Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 eh initially it was probably out of respect, as most persons do not address their parents by their first names, but rather by their titles 'mom' or 'dad', which then substituted with "emperor" or "lord". otherwise, it could be something similar to how knowing something's, like a daemon, true name holds some authority over them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1763240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Probably because while he is simply 'the Emperor' he remains an enigma, a force of nature, and marks him as something different to a normal human being. Giving him a name would not only be a massive anti-climax (whatever was chosen would be dissapointing) but I think would also make him more mundane, and for the Imperium to function he has to be seen as something infallable and above mere mortals. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1763401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Loken Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 'Hi my name is Al, I'll be your infallible ruler from now on, cool?' Yeah I see your point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1763468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I always pictured the Emperor as a Toby. Mastermind of humanity? Feared by Chaos? Beacon in the darkness of the warp? Pfff, compensating something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1763765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosLord Leon Enaek Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Mmm... Fair point, however, I personally shall endevour to do the Immortal Bob of Mankind's work, as shall all of my DIY loyalist Chapters. All glory to Bob! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1763768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperialis_Dominatus Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 The =L= shall be paying you all a visit soon. His name is Tracy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1763814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkiraCho Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 it takes away power. like people naturally fear an officer, they dont usually call him by name because that gives a friendly aspect or a more humanly aspect to it that takes away from his grandure. like if a cop pulled you over, you wouldnt be like "hey there kevin hows it going today huh? how are those nicks!" you would respectfully say "what seems to be the problem officer/sir" same idea. they dont want to be too comfortable with a living god. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1763920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 well as a creation of suicidal shamans he never was given a true name. he was probably always referred to by title i would bet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1763973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 His name is Marlene on weekends. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1763976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Skaav Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 "Good morning, this is your Emperor Speaking, I shall be leading you through out the next 10,000 years on the journey to destruction, oh and my name is Ted by the way, but reveal that to any one and my servants shall hunt you down and feed you to the Warp, or turn you in to mindless Zombie workers. Is that ok? Oh and my Warmaster for this section of the journey is Horus who halfway through our journey will betray me and cause the downfall of half my sons... but then again, I didn't want to be an Emperor, I wanted to be... A Lumberjack!!!" Or something like that, Heh Heh Heh... ^_^ :lol: :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1764016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 it takes away power. like people naturally fear an officer, they dont usually call him by name because that gives a friendly aspect or a more humanly aspect to it that takes away from his grandure. like if a cop pulled you over, you wouldnt be like "hey there kevin hows it going today huh? how are those nicks!" you would respectfully say "what seems to be the problem officer/sir" same idea. they dont want to be too comfortable with a living god. True, the title of office has good baggage. FOR THE EMPEROR!!! Sounds better than... FOR TOBY AND ASTHMA SUFFERERS EVERYWHERE! No offense to Tobys of the board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1764036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarker Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Simple: every time you pronounce HIS name someone die. After the 2500 BirthDay massacre he decided to be called "TheEmperor" to avoid problems (was his nick on some forums). :tu: B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1764071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhornateKiller Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 or could be an enormous sense of grandure and even he called himself emperor just to boost his own ego. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1764174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 or could be an enormous sense of grandure and even he called himself emperor just to boost his own ego. A traitor would say that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1764338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 or could be an enormous sense of grandure and even he called himself emperor just to boost his own ego. A traitor would say that. Yes, but now with the Horus Heresy book series, we are starting to see all too often the fallability of his plans, and that actually he was a bit of a ruthless bastard :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1764924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 He was probably like John Wayne with a name like Shirley or something, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1764935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 or could be an enormous sense of grandure and even he called himself emperor just to boost his own ego. A traitor would say that. Yes, but now with the Horus Heresy book series, we are starting to see all too often the fallability of his plans, and that actually he was a bit of a ruthless bastard :) While his plans may have been flawed, I still think they were one of the best choices he had, if not the best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1764957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imrix Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Oh come on! The Emperor screwed up, simple as. If nothing else, he certainly screwed up his first impressions with the Primarch's First impressions are important, and in several key places, the Emperor screwed his up. Angron and Lorgar spring to mind. Knowing that Angron is devoted to his men, what does Golden Boy do? Does he land with fire and thunder, unload some Custodes and help his son? Does he extract Angron and his army, surgically augment the ex-slaves and set Angron loose on his homeworld as a cathartic baptism of fire? No. He teleports Angron away, leaving the men Angron is singularly devoted to, to die. 'Nuff said, really. The Emperor has shown willingness to help the Primarch's through problems on their hoemworlds, so obviously he wasn't too pressed for time, and this sort of first impression is very important. You can talk as much as you like about how the Primarch's were simply expected to do their duty, but one of the foremost principles of a good commander is to make your troops like you, because if they don't, all sorts of trouble happens. And as for Lorgar... The waste of resources there was practically criminal. Yes, the Emperor wanted warriors, not priests, but faith need not be religious. One can have faith in an ideal, a virtue, or a vice. Faith in honour, in truth, in compassion, etc. Lorgar was given to being faithful- so what? Re-direct it, don't try to destroy it- and this is all putting aside the notion of warrior-priests, who have historically been horrifically effective. The Knights Templar were one of the most powerful military organizations of their day, and they were religious fanatics. After all, the Emperor was well aware of the threat of Chaos, and how much powerful belief could hurt it. So, upon being handed an entire legion of ready-made daemon-killers, he suits them up and makes use of the- Oh wait, sorry, that's what a sensible person would have done. There are more, of course, but I think I've made my point.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1765233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 He'd have some ancient name anyways. Plus throughout time he would've gone by hundreds of different names so to him his real name was probably irrelevant even to him. I bet he was a kahn, a caesar, a pharaoh, numerous saints and dictators. He could've been Jesus, Hitler, Constantine, Montezuma, Genghis Kahn, Nobunaga Oda, Alexander The Great, and all manner of other famous people in history "good" or "evil". He could've been the source of all manner of ancient gods and legends too for all we know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1765237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustermaker Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 well as a creation of suicidal shamans he never was given a true name. he was probably always referred to by title i would bet. He wasnt the emperor for over 20 thousand years though, what was he called before that. For that matter what did he do during that time period? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1765303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully ad Bellum Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Dudes (used gender-neutrally), The emperor came from "Anatoly," which means he's probably Greek. So his name is almost guaranteed to be Dmitri. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1765312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrvat Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Dudes (used gender-neutrally), The emperor came from "Anatoly," which means he's probably Greek. So his name is almost guaranteed to be Dmitri. 8K BC Anatolia where I am quite sure there were no Greeks or any Indoeuropean language spoken. His name would probably as alien to us now as names of some Eldar or Tau. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151506-the-emperors-parenting-skills/#findComment-1765763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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