Spreader Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 So, I have my 3 tactical squads and their rhinos...heavy weapons...special weapons...all kinds of fun stuff. They're a basic legion in my army, with the elite being the Night Lords. So...troops and new things are Pyre, Termies, Chosen, HQ and any old vehicles are Night Lords. Pretty basic. I went to create 3 Night Lord aspiring champions for the 3 tactical squads. I assumed that if I created 3 more Night Lord tacticals with basic BP/CCW then I could make a pretty nifty Chosen squad easily as well. The I compared the options for the Chosen and for aspiring champs. What the heck is going on here? I can give a champ a combi-flamer / power weapon but I can't give the same kit to a Chosen? Aren't Chosen supposed to be a squad of the best of the best? A squad of champs so to speak? I gave the guys neat kit anyway, to hell with the codex. If I run the guy as a Chosen I'll just say his flamer is jammed or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151693-chaos-chosen-qs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archnomad Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I wouldn't have a problem with it to be honest. Providing it's a combi flamer, not a fully fledged flamer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151693-chaos-chosen-qs/#findComment-1765191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 But you can have a chosen champ with a PW (or LC's) and up to 4 other models with flamers, meltas, plaz, or combi weops (although I have NO idea why someone would take a combi weop over the actual weop ?). So I'm not sure what the problem is ?? Unless it is just that for strict wysiwyg, you would have to have a different model for the chosen champ if your csm champ had a combiflamer AND a PW. I personally wouldn't care if you gave the chosen champ with the PW a combiflamer as well (even though that is not following the strictest interpetation of the rules as written) as long as you did not go over the total of 5 special weops allowed in the squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151693-chaos-chosen-qs/#findComment-1765225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Canoness Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I hear ya. Chosen should (in the name of all things unholy) be just a squad of champs (like you used to be able to do - though for quite a price mind you :D) Most of the time my Black Legion chosen just gets looked at because they are all posed and pretty - not the weapons they carry (one guy has a trophy shuriken pistol for gawds sake!) so I think that you are in the clear when it comes to swapping champs and chosen and so on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151693-chaos-chosen-qs/#findComment-1766161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillin Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 This thread got me thinking. Shouldn't a chosen champ be just alittle better then a regular squad champ ? 5 WS, spikybitz, something ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151693-chaos-chosen-qs/#findComment-1766243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 This thread got me thinking.Shouldn't a chosen champ be just alittle better then a regular squad champ ? 5 WS, spikybitz, something ? If it all worked out the way it should have, every Chosen ought to have the same statline as Possessed, be Fearless, and have access to every weapon in the Chaos arsenal, and cost 22 points a pop. They should also get Icons/Marks on a discount, as well as all the heavy weapons at discounted rate. Then they would be Chosen. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151693-chaos-chosen-qs/#findComment-1766254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Ideally, you should be able to upgrade ALL members of a Chosen unit to "Chosen Champions" for a suitable points cost. Chosen Champions would have +1 WS and A, and would have the same options as a Raptor Champion (along with the ability to purchase a single Daemonic Reward each if the writers of the current codex hadn't been too lazy to include them). All Chosen would also be Fearless as standard, as their status demands. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151693-chaos-chosen-qs/#findComment-1766592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Let's stop flogging the already beaten, stabbed, shot, bled, lacerated, mauled, ravaged and crushed - dead horse shall we? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151693-chaos-chosen-qs/#findComment-1766622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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