Keb Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I was playing against my mate's Ork army and he keeps charging my Land Raider with his Nobz, claiming that the furious charge adds +1 to his strength and then doubles it with the power Klaw, effectively giving him a Strength 10 hit Is that the rule or does he have to multiply his original strength then add +1 for the furious charge? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152159-power-klaw-nd-furious-charge/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 No, you add bonuses after doubling - your friend was cheating. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152159-power-klaw-nd-furious-charge/#findComment-1771879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keb Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 Aha revenge shall be had! Cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152159-power-klaw-nd-furious-charge/#findComment-1771887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praeger Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Not nessisarily cheating. He could just be confused. There was a time where you could add then double so it could just be confusing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152159-power-klaw-nd-furious-charge/#findComment-1772024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 On pg 7 of the mini rule book it states under Multiple modifiers: "If a model has a combination of rules or wargear that both add to and multiply one of its characteristics, first multiply the basic value and then add the extra points. For example, if a model with strength 4 has both '+1 strength' and 'double strength', its final strength will be 9 (4x2=8, 8+1=9)" So it uses the example you were enquiring about!! GC08 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152159-power-klaw-nd-furious-charge/#findComment-1772519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordekiem Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Not nessisarily cheating. He could just be confused. There was a time where you could add then double so it could just be confusing. Not playing by the rules is cheating. Whether he meant to cheat or not is something else. And I would not blame confusion I would blame poor rules reading (or no rules reading). :RTBBB: ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152159-power-klaw-nd-furious-charge/#findComment-1772935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praeger Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Mordekiem, cheating is purposefully mis-playing the rules. Making a mistake and mis-playing the rules isnt cheating, its simply not knowing what the rules really are. It really is different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152159-power-klaw-nd-furious-charge/#findComment-1773094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 However, the rules haven't been like that since 3rd ed at least, I never played 3rd so it may have been before that, but I'm sure it was double then add in 4th ed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152159-power-klaw-nd-furious-charge/#findComment-1773099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Granted in this case there is no excuse as my brother correctly pointed out, that very example is stated in the BBB, however confusing a rule (honestly confusing a rule, not pretending to) I would not class as cheating, simply making a mistake. After all, can you all honestly say you have never in your life made a mistake? I know myself, and EVERY other person I have played against have made mistakes before, its not cheating if you honestly forget about something, of course if you remember and keep doing it then it IS cheating. The problem lies in telling the difference between the two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152159-power-klaw-nd-furious-charge/#findComment-1773121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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