Kaine Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 I've read most of the old posts on this topic, but i'd like to make sure i understand it correctly. If a Blood Claw charges, i get 1 attack base, 1 for extra CCW, and 2 for Berserk Charge. If a Blood Claw is charged and passes the leadership test for counterattack they get 1 attack base, 1 for extra CCW and 2 for BC. I assume they only get a total of +2, rather than +2 and the +1 for counterattack ? (i make this assumption because it says in Berserk charge that its +2 attack instead of +1, so i assume you dont get the +1 for counter ?). Is this correct ? (I dont want to start a debate on this one, that seems to have been done already) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 counter attack doesnt grant +1 attack. What it does, is if you pass your Ld test, you count "as charging". Which means +2 attacks from BC's due to berzerk charge, +1 for any other models for just charging. The only thing that grants +1 attack just for countercharging would be the wolf pelt, which is why it's essential for for WGPL's and IC's. Ragnar gets a nice +3 attacks on the counter, +1 for 2 CCW, and 4 base attacks for a whopping 8 attacks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1773399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 HOLY CRAP thats alot of attacks!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1774300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornigar Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 So, hang on. If a WGPL counters, he gets the special rule countering attack, assuming the leadership test is passed AND an attack for the wolf pelt? Or am I just being greedy? ;) Otherwise the wolf pelt seems useless, surely, since we get the attack anyway on proviso of a leadership pass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1774361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Yes, as explained above, wolf pelts stack ;) best 3 pts EVER Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1774375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornigar Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 That can't be right surely ;) There was me worrying my beloved wolves were getting nerfed, we're actually getting better lol I think I'm gonna have a tough time convincing the other gamers tho lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1774387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 convince them nothing. if they cant read a rule book, they shouldnt play warhammer. wolf lord kieran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1774526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornigar Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Ah but they're very much into the spirit of the rules more than the letter of them. I do understand that to an extent. Someone should do a thread outlining the more important changes 5th has made on the wolves & what equipment is now useless etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1774657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 There is, it's called the 5th ed FAQ for wolves, it's a sticky on the top of the page :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1774705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornigar Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 . . . . Ok, it's late & I've been drinking lol *hangs head in shame* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1774719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 You've been drinking? Alright, since you've done the Wolfish thing to do, we can forgive you. :woot: *passes more ale down to Thornigar* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1774847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thornigar Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 lol *gratefully accepts* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1775415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WG Vrox Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I think I get now why Blood Claws have a BS and WS of 3. They don't know how to handle their ale, so they either have a hang over or are still semi drunk from the night before? WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152272-counter-attack-rules-clarification-please/#findComment-1775510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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