OwlandMoonGuy Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 The tournament results are posted here: Link to GW US Community site. Daemons took the #1 slot for US ‘Ard Boyz, and the 9th rank as well. At the Baltimore GT They took 3rd & 4th. Nice to see daemons take 2 slots in the top ten for both events. There’s still a lot of Internet banter that daemons can’t compete in a tourney setting due to their random elements. It's good to see that the players are still proving that to be wrong. If anyone can find the lists they were using it would be much appreciated. -OMG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 As good as this is to hear, I fear it will merely cause an outcry of "Cheese!" against us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1776610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 The tournament results are posted here: Link to GW US Community site. Daemons took the #1 slot for US ‘Ard Boyz, and the 9th rank as well. At the Baltimore GT They took 3rd & 4th. Nice to see daemons take 2 slots in the top ten for both events. There’s still a lot of Internet banter that daemons can’t compete in a tourney setting due to their random elements. It's good to see that the players are still proving that to be wrong. If anyone can find the lists they were using it would be much appreciated. -OMG I think often the cry that they can't be used in tournaments is because of the various elements of chance they have involved in their use (which admittedly all armies in fact 40k as a whole is based on.) However if your willing to take a risk and things go as you like daemons can win like any other army and because of how they deploy it can be helpful in 5th ed missions ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1776650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Great to hear about the chaos gods favoring those few who took battle in Baltimore! Too bad they were busy when I needed them, but still a ranking isn't bad for mono-god. ^_^ I would have to assume the list that won looked something like at least 2 heralds of slaanesh on chariots, possibly a greater daemon, 3 soulgrinders, lots of troops, just lots and lots at high numbers and that's probably it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1776976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexiest_hero Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 The winning list was a fateweaver bloodcrusher list with bloodletters and horror flamer back up. there was some grubling about the bases of the blood crushers being small(the old juggy bases), and he set up an hq and two troop choices in DOW.(does DOW overide daemon rules or vice versa) judges ruled he could set up one hq and two troops. the second place player was a DE player. he was te one crying foul. but in ard boys there is no crying not even for eldar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1777348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dourine Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Daemon rules override DoW rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1777349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Daemon rules override DoW rules. Exactly, same reason why I field my entire 13th company because they have scouts on that mission. :) Fateweaver huh? Bloodcrushers? flamers? bloodletters?... hmmm... OH MY! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1777617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
==Me== Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Cheating wins the 'Ard Boyz, so much for proving Daemons are a viable army :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1778146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizePapaSmurf Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Cheating wins the 'Ard Boyz, so much for proving Daemons are a viable army <_< Under contention, but it is verified that the Daemons player KNEW it was a bad ruling and still followed said bad ruling, which is certainly saying something to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1780006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
==Me== Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Under contention, but it is verified that the Daemons player KNEW it was a bad ruling and still followed said bad ruling, which is certainly saying something to me. And the fact that he based his Bloodcrushers on smaller bases and had bigger bases on hand. He asked his opponent's permission to let him use smaller bases when he knew they were supposed to be on bigger ones to give him an advantage by browbeating some guy. That and lying about the judge ruling in his favor (no judge recalled making that ruling? BS). Daemons have performed well in other tourneys, so we can always look to them as proof that it's a solid army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1780112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevianID Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I thought that the winning list had 24 bloodcrushers and no horrors, but I cant be exact anymore... But ya, definately wrong bases for the crushers (wrong models too, new bloodletters on fantasy horses for an all plastic model, but they at least looked cool enough) and deploying demons via DOW rules when codex deployment > rulebook deployment. Makes me mad and sad at/for the judges, even though the head judge was a nice guy there is a lot of browbeating a judge into making a wrong ruling, and then him having to enforce it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1781881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I would like to know more about those winning lists.. hmm 24 bloodcrushers.. that's a lot, not much more room for troops then ?? How many points is that tourney ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1781971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlandMoonGuy Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 'Ard Boyz is 2,500 pts. -OMG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1782153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Which, if you have no upgrades on your 'crushers, gives you 1540 points left for troops and HQ, I think he'd be alright. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1782317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Which, if you have no upgrades on your 'crushers, gives you 1540 points left for troops and HQ, I think he'd be alright. Well not much can withstand 2 squads of 12 bloodcrushers... at least that's how I'm assuming he did it, or 3 squads of 8... fluffier that way, but not as survivable... Technically if he used the horses, then he'd use the bases the horses came on, being the cavalry bases, this would pose an amazing advantage... I may just have to stop building my brets and use their horses to put bloodletters on... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1783894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Well not much can withstand 2 squads of 12 bloodcrushers... at least that's how I'm assuming he did it, or 3 squads of 8... fluffier that way, but not as survivable... Doesn't really matter if it's not as survivable, max squad size is 8 :P you're mono-khorne, you should know what ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1783937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Well not much can withstand 2 squads of 12 bloodcrushers... at least that's how I'm assuming he did it, or 3 squads of 8... fluffier that way, but not as survivable... Doesn't really matter if it's not as survivable, max squad size is 8 :P you're mono-khorne, you should know what ;) Sorry for my lack of smilies, but it was sarcastic, as in he was already cheating, now that I re-read it, I can see where my poor health is affecting my ability to write humor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1783951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Oh.... Well to be honest if it's even slightly subtle it goes right over my head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1784101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azathoth3000 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 OH come on now, you can use a squad of 16 since it is a multiple of 8 and still stay fluffy.... haha... i said fluffy... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/152501-chaos-daemons-take-1-us-%E2%80%98ard-boyz/#findComment-1789603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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