Using blood claws effectively

[saphius]

You said you usually run GHs in rhinos. - This setup is the perfect compliment to that...

 

I run as large as I can in a Crusader. 3 PF, 1 Flamer. - A model might get dropped here or there because of needs elsewhere in lists - I find if I end up dropping a few I keep them at 11 for the 3rd fist. - Always fists never PWs. The 2 attack bonus on bloodclaws for only 12 pts per fist is too good to not take.

 

A Pack Leader with Lighting claws if I have the points or feel the need. (usually don't) - For the PW attacks at initiative. And the re-rolls to wound.

 

And almost always to lead it a Wolf Priest. WITHOUT HP&B - Mainly because, if your doing your job, he should always be engaged. - This keeps him cheap so the point sink isn't as bad, and gives the BC's LD 10 for counter-attacks after you wipe someone out. And for the HP&B to earn it's points back you have to save at least two models. - My claws in a crusader typically don't get shot at for more than one round of shooting per game. In which case it could only be used once.

 

And when I run pod lists I don't take them. GHs work better in pod lists.

[Warhead01]

I have seen this post and would like to add a question of my own.. Blood claws bezerk charge will not apply to anyone leading their unit but Ragnars will so what happons when he leads blood claws? can they get +4 attacks? !!!!

Im working on a nasty list.. I wont even try it if it is not legal. But it would be so sick! oh and on the counter charge!

[Grey Mage]

Nope.... each one simply replaces their normal +1 attack bonus for charging, thus you get +2 either way. Ragnars abilities turn whatever unit hes within into a bigger and possibly badder bloodclaws.... its kind of a waste to put him with a unit of them.

[LPetersson]

I have seen this post and would like to add a question of my own.. Blood claws bezerk charge will not apply to anyone leading their unit but Ragnars will so what happons when he leads blood claws? can they get +4 attacks? !!!!

 

As Grey Mage said, sadly not.

Put Ragnar with some Grey Hunters in a Land Raider and go full steam ahead...

 

And in bigger battles give him a retinue of Wolf Guards and watch them slice through nearly anything ;)

[Jonny Wolf]

I've put Ragnar in a Drop Pod with Retinue:

 

Ragnar - 8 attacks on a charge, 9 recieving a charge

Wolf Guard Termi, Heavy Flamer, Chain Fist, WTN, WP, Runic Charm 5/6 attacks

Wolf Guard Termi, Heavy Flamer, Power Weapon, WTN, WP, Runic Charm 5/6 attacks

Wolf Guard Termi, Heavy Flamer, Power Weapon, WTN, WP, Runich Charm 5/6 attacks

Wolf Guard Termi, TLLC, WTN, WP, Runic Charm, Great Company Banner 6/7 attacks

Wolf Guard, Storm Shield, Power Axe, WTN, WP, Runic Charm 5/6 attacks

Wolf Guard, Storm Shield, Power Axe, WTN, WP, Runic Charm 5/6 attacks

Wolf Guard, Storm Shield, Power Sword, WTN, WP, Runic Charm 5/6 attacks

 

44 attacks on a charge

52 recieving a charge

 

I was charged by a Nob squad on bikes, with a Pain boy, Boss Pole and War Boss and 8 Nobz.

 

:huh:

 

But, expensive as hell....

[LPetersson]

I've put Ragnar in a Drop Pod with Retinue:

44 attacks on a charge

52 recieving a charge

But, expensive as hell....

 

Pretty nasty indeed, but doesn't everyone just shoot the hell out of them since you can't assault out of a DP?

Or is this something you just use once per unsuspecting player who don't know any better? :huh:

[Jonny Wolf]

It does depend on what kind of battle I'm going into, how he arrays his forces, etc. Just because I buy a drop pod doesn't necessarily mean I'll use them to deploy...

 

Speaking of which, I do still my drop pods whether they're occupied or not. I use them to canalize enemy forces into my terrain.