General K Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 So I'm playing against Orks the other day, and my Chapter Master calls down an Orbital Bombardment into a unit of Orks. Between said Orks and my heroic Chapter Master there stands a unit of Gretchin. My bombardment manages to wound 7 Orks. The question was: do the Ork Boyz get a cover save from the Gretchin? My first reaction: obviously no. The Orbital Bombardment is coming from a Battle Barge (ostensibly on the ceiling) and not from the Mater. My opponent, however, argued that the Bombardment description reads "otherwise counts as firing a ranged weapon", and doesn't speak towards the origin of the attack. I had to agree with him, of course, because that made too much sense. The Orks made their cover saves, and I only managed to kill two of them. It still doesn't seem right though. What's the "official" word on this? Does an intervening unit grant a cover save during an Orbital Bombardment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Orbital bombarnent is a Ordnance 1, Barrage weapon. Now, reading the rules concerning barrage in the BRB should set both of you straight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1785674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General K Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 Orbital bombarnent is a Ordnance 1, Barrage weapon.Now, reading the rules concerning barrage in the BRB should set both of you straight. ...yeah, now I'm slightly ashamed I didn't already look there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1785676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Pash Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I would expect it to be treated the same as an Ordanance weapon ie. cover is determined from the centre hole in the template so for most things that would be a no. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1785677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be26 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 The concept of five Orks not being immolated by a massive version of a lascannon because there were Grots between them and the Chapter Master makes...hang on, let me count on my fingers...yeah, no sense. It gets no cover, nothing but a lot of charred Ork flesh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1785701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The only way to get cover from barrage weapons is to be IN cover, and even thats not garunteed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1786361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souchan Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I would expect it to be treated the same as an Ordanance weapon ie. cover is determined from the centre hole in the template so for most things that would be a no. Barrage does that, not ordnance. Matters for stuff like vindicators^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1786680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniclurker Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 The concept of five Orks not being immolated by a massive version of a lascannon because there were Grots between them and the Chapter Master makes...hang on, let me count on my fingers...yeah, no sense. It gets no cover, nothing but a lot of charred Ork flesh. Acckkk! *coke shoots out nose* SIGGED! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1789241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falafel Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Acckkk! *coke shoots out nose* SIGGED! That's the wrong direction man... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1792164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniclurker Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Acckkk! *coke shoots out nose* SIGGED! That's the wrong direction man... I was referring to the soda. I don't use... anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1792908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaeux Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I was referring to the soda. I don't use... anymore. The cost of GW products will do that :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1793084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praeger Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 OT conversation has forced this topic to be closed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153219-orbital-bombardment-shooting-through-units/#findComment-1794004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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