Roboute Guilliman

[Askren]

Ooook, so I announced this over in my home Ultramarines forum, and got some positive responses, which fueled my desire to make this guy better than any other Marine I've put on the table.

 

Basically, Guilliman. The Primarch of the Ultramarines. I'm making him for a local store's big event this summer based on the Heresy, and figured this would be a great way push my abilities.

 

Now, some info before I jump into this: I've never used Green Stuff before, save once to make a blob of a cape for a Chaplain. I've never used Plasticard before. I've never true scaled a Marine, or even chopped apart a Terminator like this. I usually don't do much in the way of conversions, because I like getting my army on the field, and what I do 'convert' is basically just swapping bitz.

 

So, here's what I have after about 2 days of work.

 

The left is the original pic, and the right is hastily MSPainted to show what actually got converted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/HunterMage/Picture78.jpg

 

Here's just a size comparison shot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/HunterMage/Picture79.jpg

 

Now, I'm not very experienced with converting like this, as I said, but I am quite familiar with proportion, anatomy, and scaling, as I'm an illustrator by trade, and from my PoV, the torso is quite well proportioned, without looking too thin or tall.

 

I plan on making some nice armor plates for the greaves, shouders, chest, and gloves using Scibor's push-molding method. '

 

Questions, comments, praise, death threats always welcome, and encouraged. I especially would love some advice on any bitz (ESPECIALLY non-GW) that might be worth seeking out for this project.

 

Thanks for reading!

~Ask

[nurglephill]

first thing i would say is he needs to be bigger. mortarions waist is chest high on a marine so you gotta figure its the same for the other primarks. otherwise so far so good

 

phill

[Terminatorinhell]

awesome, i've always wanted to see gulliman!

[dark_inquisitor]

actually the hieght looks about right, his waist is almost chest hieght on the other marine, I think it's just the position.

 

for the greaves, there's a really cool tutorial somewhere about moulding the greaves with GS and..something else, sorry :P not much help but maybe some1 else knows what I'm talking about and knows how to post a link.

 

a suggeston about the details: make them as intricate as possible, with as many honors as you can pile on this guy.

 

Great work so far. Any idea on which head you'll use?

[metcalfedan]

Dunno if this helps:

 

Clicky

 

Or this:

 

Clicky 2

[Hellios]

first thing i would say is he needs to be bigger. mortarions waist is chest high on a marine so you gotta figure its the same for the other primarks. otherwise so far so good

 

phill

 

Wasn't mortarion also the tallest primarch after Magnus?, some of the Primarchs were bigger than Mortarion but he was pretty tall I think. While Alpharius was the shortest, only a head or so above a marine.

[Askren]

Thanks for the comments. A full 2 days without a single word made me think there was no love for Guilliman to be found.

 

Anyway, I woulda made him bigger, if he wasn't meant to be a tabletop model, possibly a 'counts-as Calgar'. He's being built for a game of 40k, so I don't think making him so big he would need a Dread's base would go over too well.

 

That said, metcalfedan: I was actually planning on using the tutorial from your second link. I have a WIP shot of that Guilliman (Scibor has done at least two), as inspiration, though I'm not sure what style I like more:

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/HunterMage/shoulders.jpg

 

 

Anyway, enough of that, now for the crappy progress pic!

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/HunterMage/Untitled-2.jpg

 

As you can see, his leg has been chopped off and replaced. Torso is now finished as a base, and it will get a partial robe and some chest ornamentation.

 

I'm currently working on a power claw/fist/thing kinda like the one out of the Chapter Masters box, so he can hold his plumed helmet.

 

a suggeston about the details: make them as intricate as possible, with as many honors as you can pile on this guy.

 

Great work so far. Any idea on which head you'll use?

Oh, trust me, I plan to. I think Sicarius' head, but we'll see when we get there.

 

More C&C is always welcome. Thanks for watching.

[Shortsonfire79]

I'm very confused with that drawing you presented...I'll assume that they're grieves..but I don't really know whats what..The blue part is a grieve..but whats the squiggly black line..and the box underneath.....and everything else as well...

 

I think with the position the legs are at now, its going to be challenging to show how tall he really will be. And I'm not sure normal people stand like that...they usually lunge forward, not sideways..If hes not lunging... then thats a funny way to stand easy or something.

 

Looking forward to progress and an explanation of the drawing.

[Askren]

It's a really, really bad MSPaint drawing of 2 versions of shoulder pads I'm working on. The left is the standard pre-Heresy terminator pad style (basically, plates on top of the shoulder), and the other is an interesting design I've seen where a similar plate is on the outside of the arm, rather than on top.

 

I admit, the stance is a bit wonky, and I'll probably change the position of the other leg to be a bit more natural. For now, it works.

 

Anyway, sorry for the horrible, horrible pictures. My camera is currently in the possession of my dad, and I only have it when he's here on weekends.

 

So, enjoy this monstrous picture of the WIP as it stands.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/HunterMage/001.jpg

 

EDIT:

 

Here's what else is taking up my time, and providing my color pallatte for this scultp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v713/HunterMage/002.jpg

[Shortsonfire79]

I understand the left picture now, but I still don't get the right =-D

 

Well, for the pose like that, you could always have him looking back, to call his troops forwards, like "COME ON BOYS!! WE CAN TAKE THEM!" but that doesn't seem characterful to Mr. Guilliman.

 

Great work on that Standard Bearer too, looks good.

And, I hate to say it, but your 'horrible pictures' are almost as good as my 'best' ones. =-D Keep posting!

[Sons of Horus]

this is quite impressive indeed. can't wait to see it more complete.