WG Vrox Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Since the assult weapon replaces the bolt pistol and the powerfist replaces the CCW, would it be legal to put let's say Melta gun / PF combo on a GH? Or is the Melta/Plasma/Flamer listed as 2handed, I don't have my C: SM book handy. You don't loose any attacks and preserve two of the better weapons for wound allocation? WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 On the other hand if that one model dies you lose both weapons and the way wound allocation works now that is a distinct possibility. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Ironically in the new C:SM you can give your honor guard a Melta gun, Power fist and a storm shield - each! Seriously...does anyone double check GW when they make these things? Obviously nobody checked the orc codex for a Nob Biker squad with a Pain boy and war boss... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 My C:SW says that you may replace bolt pistol and close combat weapon with one of the following...meltagun at +10 pts so I would be inclined to say no to Meltagaun, Plasma gun amd flamer, but yes if you wanted to take a plasma pistol on the same model... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPetersson Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Ironically in the new C:SM you can give your honor guard a Melta gun, Power fist and a storm shield - each! I think you mean command squad, but yes, that is pretty... nifty... ;) If you play smurfs that is :-D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Right - command squad - my bad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranek Icewalker Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Well, if you think the nillas are broken, then you are going to get a big shock when our dex comes out :jaw: for any of you who have been reading into fantasy, you probably have read the new Warroirs o' chaos dex, and it was written by PHIL KELLY(the dex is astoundingly broken) You probably have said to yourself, hhhhmmm.... Phil Kelly is writting our DEX, so you may see that our dex will probably be insane, cool, and most importantly COMPLETELY BROKEN, :whoops: Also, as far as I can tell, you can because with true grit, you can, so you should be able to use both a melta and a Power Fist, but regarding that, why would you, you may have major issues, because any stupid ultramarine play(no offence, but i don't like Marneas Calgar) or any other nilla marine player will bring the man formally known as Telion, he will pick that guy out, and you will have a very expensive dead guy on your hands, which would give you and me a GIANT HEADACHE, the kind that you get from smashing your head against a wall for an hour :wallbash: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 True Grit works with bolters (and combi-bolters, but not storm bolters), so no on Melta/Flamer/Plasma counting as a CCW with a PW. Not that it matters with a PF anyway. Personally, I see no problem with a PF/special weapon on the same model, but you have to trade your BP/CCW for the special weapon, and I dont think Wolf Guards can take Flamer/Plasma/Melta... so no real opportunity to do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Seems so, but as said, point sink if he dies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 another point sink i once thought of was one blood claw with two of the three power fist for one of my packs. but i kept think what if he dies? so i never made him, it also seems a little to angry marine-ish, but i guess blood claws are kind of like them. *edit* oh, and i also heard a bunch about mr. kelly there. i have heard that he is writing the codex as well from a friend at a local store, i guess he knows him some how( he's a DA player but its all good). but he said that we shouldn't be disappointed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I still love your Signature Direfang...ha ha ha ha ha ha :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I still love your Signature Direfang...ha ha ha ha ha ha ^_^ It is great, reminds me of my pack leaders in my 13th co. lists where I had ork nobs on bikes afraid of charging my units in fear of being beaten down by one guy with 8 power fist attacks hitting on 3's... :) As others (especially Omar) said, you can't hold a melta in one hand and power fist in the other for our grey hunters. That's why they need to bring inferno pistols back. B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1792857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 mmmmm.... inferno pistols..... i think they would go great with BC or a CC GH squad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1793002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAVAAR Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 As far as Meltagun with PF goes, it does not specifically say no. However, before you go making a bunch of models for it, as a melta does replace BOTH bolt pistol and CCW you cannot take it with a PF, and True Grit doesn't work with melta/plasma/flamers so that proposition is out the window. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1793095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 yeah, knew TG would not work with the Melta/PF combo, but would only get 1 attack anyway so why not stack them I was thinking, however no need to even consider it now as it would be an illegal model. WG Vrox. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1793438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I dont think you can give 2 Power Fists to a single BC. You replace the CCW with the PF, thus there would be no CCW (just a BP, which counts as, but isnt a CCW in of itself) to trade for the second one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1793819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Why would you even give two powerfists to one model, it is no different then having pf/bp? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1794226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Actually if you use the two PFs then you get the bonus for an extra weapon. However as has been stated that is a huge point sink unless you get it on a high WS Wolf Lord or something so that you are almost sure to hit something with them. If you do it on a BC then you are wasting points, even on a GH I would think. Also even on a Wolf Lord I would rather take the Lightning Claws I would think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1794235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Actually if you use the two PFs then you get the bonus for an extra weapon. However as has been stated that is a huge point sink unless you get it on a high WS Wolf Lord or something so that you are almost sure to hit something with them. If you do it on a BC then you are wasting points, even on a GH I would think. Also even on a Wolf Lord I would rather take the Lightning Claws I would think. You cant do it on a BC or GH. The PF replaces the CCW, and you only have one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1794349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Ah ok, I don't remember seeing that but hey I'm still learning the little details. =P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1794551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 But you get the extra weapon bonus from having a bolt pistol or ccw, which the model already has and with the bolt pistol you can still shoot if you need to. I don't what advantage or point there is to have two PFs. I don't even think the model would look good with two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1795486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 But you get the extra weapon bonus from having a bolt pistol or ccw, which the model already has and with the bolt pistol you can still shoot if you need to. I don't what advantage or point there is to have two PFs. I don't even think the model would look good with two. nope, powerfist, thunder hammers and lighting claws all need to be matched sets now, not just the lighting claws. bolt pistols no longer work. about the PF on BCs i didn't have my 'dex with me so i didn't remember if it was ""replace CCW" or "replace CCW or Pistol" with a ...". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1795520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 It says "replace CCW". Checked it before I posted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153769-assult-weapon-powerfist/#findComment-1796564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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