Grimfoe Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Just finished playing a game against nilla marines. Have to say, I'm not that impressed. Space Wolves carried the day, 9 victory points to 1. Highlight of the game: My Wolf Guard Battle Leader with MC Frostblade whupped his Chapter Master with Lightning Claws. This was after my Wolf Scouts charged and killed his entire retinue. Another note, the new Drop Pod with Deathwind Launcher is easily worth the money and points. I'v edited out the A part of your title It had no use what so ever Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Yeah, I played a game against nilla SMs and whooped the CM's butt with a Grey Hunter pack. The DWML is great cause its like the Scouts, they either know how good it is and spend time and ammo going after the DP(s) or ignore it without a clue as to what it can do and get smacked with a large template a couple times before they decide to do anything about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1792927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Is this anything new? We've been kicking arse and taking names this whole time, especially the other marine chapters. Our HQ's are superior than theirs in combat, our troops are even better than their HQ's. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1792947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Well it's funny cause people have been telling me to expect to lose alot since I am just starting but so far for my personal record with the Wolves I am 1/0/1. It's why, despite the craziness in how old our Codex is and the conflicts it causes, I love the Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1792951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 i know i have been having problems with the new Marine codex, but i find their HQs to be slightly less impressive than ours. one of my opponents uses Vulkan Hestan with a melta/flamer heavy army, including 10 terminators with thunder hammer/storm shield. its a hard nut for me to crack. wolf lord kieran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1792969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphius Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 You also have to realize that their HQs do more than ours in general. That's why we can smack them around in CC. We don't get to orbital strike, ect. Their standard equipment is better as well. But, Come face to face in CC we are better... and that's the way it should be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1792979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 more importantly, a chapter master or captain with relic blade will hit us on 3's, and wound on 2's. thats nothing to sneeze at. wolf lord kieran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1792981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saphius Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 more importantly, a chapter master of captain with relic blade will hit us on 3's, and wound on 2's. thats nothing to sneeze at. wolf lord kieran - Ouch. Point for point though I still think we'd be better at that, well, point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1792984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 mind you a wolf lord with a frost blade and wtn will hit on 3's and wound on 3's and i do believe it is cheaper Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1793080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 i know a WL is slightly cheaper points wise, but my point was not to dismiss the SM characters in close combat... they have a stong punch or two. wofl lord kieran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1793086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 I'm sure my opponent could have put together a more formidable list or a CM that could have went toe to toe with me. The point that struck me from this battle is that I expected to have my head handed to me. I did not have the list I wanted. I still have some models in the works and I needed to field older models to make the 1850. (I had to field my Long Fangs, for example. And 7 Blood Claws with Jump Packs) Even so, I was able to keep him off balance and eventually kill his IC's with mine. Ragnar killed his Terminator Squad in one assault phase. My Wolf Guard Battle Leader killed his Chaplain in one turn and his Chapter Master in the next. His chaplain was quite a bit more expensive than my WGBL as was his CM. Even his Honor Guard died at the hands of my Wolf Scouts. We stepped out, shot them with 2 plasma pistol and a melta gun and then charged to kill the rest. His CM was able to kill my Wolf Scouts, but only after his Chaplain and Assault Squad came in to help. All and all, I'd say we've still got "it" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1793216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 best thing is that we never lost it. the wolves have the oldest codex and no matter what we are still able to trounce all these power creep codices with our ancient rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1793358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Crassus Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 by oldest, you mean.. second oldest. Dark Eldar friend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1795519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 wheres the delete button Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1795572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 had a reprint my friend. the space wolves are 10 years old and growing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1795575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Both codices have had reprints. *shrugs* Besides, Wolf lord > Bloodthirster > SM Commander. Thats how I see it lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1795678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester262 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I wouldn't get to comfortable being that much better. When our new dex comes out I think our HQ's will get nerfed as well. I am not looking forward to that ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1795828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 I wouldn't get to comfortable being that much better. When our new dex comes out I think our HQ's will get nerfed as well. I am not looking forward to that ;) I think it is likely that we'll lose some of our ability to customize wargear. That seems the direction that GW is moving. So....in the meantime....I intend to beat the snot out of as many nilla marines as I can get my hands on Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1795834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 And Goddess do I hate that direction. Commanders especially should be able to choose their equipment. Are you telling me with the might of an entire chapter, and all their servants, behind them a Captain cant get himself a lousy brace of plasma pistols if he wants? And a Powersword? Its complete BS. If they cant balance the different options to a proper points cost they need to get new playtesters or designers. The ones in the new codex seem kinda like a cop out in some ways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1795843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I wouldn't get to comfortable being that much better. When our new dex comes out I think our HQ's will get nerfed as well. I am not looking forward to that ;) If anything we'll get buffed. Look at the SM characters in general, especially calgar and lysander... here's two guys that are more powerful than Logan, that's just not right, more wounds and eternal warrior. I'm POSITIVE that Logan will have 4 wounds as well and eternal warrior... that'll get me to field him again. Also Ulrik will get stronger (no one's paying 200 points for a 2 wounded model... common...). I'm also looking forward to them providing special "tactics" when chosen for your army, as said before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1795920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 I wouldn't get to comfortable being that much better. When our new dex comes out I think our HQ's will get nerfed as well. I am not looking forward to that :yes: If anything we'll get buffed. Look at the SM characters in general, especially calgar and lysander... here's two guys that are more powerful than Logan, that's just not right, more wounds and eternal warrior. I'm POSITIVE that Logan will have 4 wounds as well and eternal warrior... that'll get me to field him again. Also Ulrik will get stronger (no one's paying 200 points for a 2 wounded model... common...). I'm also looking forward to them providing special "tactics" when chosen for your army, as said before. I tend to agree that our stats will improve. Special Characters, in particular will likely improve. I think we may lose some ability to customize our generic IC's, however. I like coming up with weapon combinations that my opponent isn't anticipating. We will be less able to do that in the next codex, I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1795990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 im also looking forward to an actual wolf lord model Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1796061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logain the Ranger Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 That one still won't happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1796177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Really, all they need is to take the Generic Captain box and add in all sorts of neat Wolfed up stuff... and then a Termi armor lord box like the Chaos one. Shouldn't be too hard to pull off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1796423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 it could happen they still have another year before wolves are supposed to come out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153789-chapter-master/#findComment-1796445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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