Full-choke Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 OK, the wash is meant to be that way. I put it on really heavy and it gives it the effect that the model is covered in leaky oil everywhere. I hadn't put the brown wash on it, but once I do that it makes it look like a dirty, oily machine ready for battle. The desired effect looks a lot better in person, pictures never do my paint job justice. Have faith in me that it does look good when it's all done. I will try and get it finished up this week but my brother's wedding is coming up and I am busy with that this week. As far as the grates go, those are HO Scale styrene stairs from Plastruct, part number 90662 to be exact. I find they work extremely well if you trim them up a little bit and get them sized right. F-C Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153824-cerberus-tank-project-close-to-done-now-touch-up-required/page/2/#findComment-1807625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks333 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 OK, the wash is meant to be that way. I put it on really heavy and it gives it the effect that the model is covered in leaky oil everywhere. I hadn't put the brown wash on it, but once I do that it makes it look like a dirty, oily machine ready for battle. The desired effect looks a lot better in person, pictures never do my paint job justice. Have faith in me that it does look good when it's all done. I will try and get it finished up this week but my brother's wedding is coming up and I am busy with that this week. As far as the grates go, those are HO Scale styrene stairs from Plastruct, part number 90662 to be exact. I find they work extremely well if you trim them up a little bit and get them sized right. F-C the problem with the effect, is it doesnt look planned, it looks like a messy wash instead of oil...oils doent usually transport themselves into random locations like that...what got the oil onto and away from the places on a tank that have oil, for instance also oil is thick but there is no appearence of any thick oil anywhere, its all transparent, and oil isnt often transparent like that because it tends to pool, dry up slightly and grime builds up because oils are stickier and dust and crap collects: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/32948234...cdebd3d.jpg?v=0 http://www.brushthralls.com/images/stories...17_dscn2915.jpg if its lubrication, then it will appear more glistening than stained and usually browned, and more evenly applied, collecting in recesses: http://www.geekologie.com/2008/07/17/metal-art-1.jpg next, if all you are adding is washes it wont make sense because you cant have an in depth weathering effect without the in depth weathering, so you need to add grime, collecting of dirt and gunk to recesses and so on the black on red looks like the red is on unevenly, and the red looks pink(is that just photos?) not sure what else is being done, but i suggest adding more colour to break up the large amount of metal good conversion, a bit more effort/time in the painting would be nice to see :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153824-cerberus-tank-project-close-to-done-now-touch-up-required/page/2/#findComment-1807683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-choke Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 The red is actually red gore, so it is not actually pink. I think the lighting and the wash make it look pink in the pictures. As much as my girlfriend would like it I would never paint an army pink... On the metal, I like the fact that there is so much metal. The model is for use in my Ad Mech army, so I don't really want to change that either. I think it speaks for the Cult as they worship the machine and machine parts...why would the cover up all of that splendor with paint? What I am headed for is a lubrication on the surface to keep all that steel from rusting. Having grown up on a farm I know that lubrication of a surface (with oil) does make that surface shiny. But, I can promise you that as soon as that oily surface gets in contact with any kind of dust it is no longer so and becomes extremely dingy and dirty. As far as depth into the paint, what would be suggested? Would you actually glue on some fine sand/dirt type stuff and paint it to give it that look? I can promise that if a tank is driving through a war zone the last thing it will look is clean and nice. If it goes to war with a nice oil coat on the metal, something tells me it will come back dirty as all get out. F-C Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153824-cerberus-tank-project-close-to-done-now-touch-up-required/page/2/#findComment-1807908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks333 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 The red is actually red gore, so it is not actually pink. I think the lighting and the wash make it look pink in the pictures. As much as my girlfriend would like it I would never paint an army pink... On the metal, I like the fact that there is so much metal. The model is for use in my Ad Mech army, so I don't really want to change that either. I think it speaks for the Cult as they worship the machine and machine parts...why would the cover up all of that splendor with paint? What I am headed for is a lubrication on the surface to keep all that steel from rusting. Having grown up on a farm I know that lubrication of a surface (with oil) does make that surface shiny. But, I can promise you that as soon as that oily surface gets in contact with any kind of dust it is no longer so and becomes extremely dingy and dirty. As far as depth into the paint, what would be suggested? Would you actually glue on some fine sand/dirt type stuff and paint it to give it that look? I can promise that if a tank is driving through a war zone the last thing it will look is clean and nice. If it goes to war with a nice oil coat on the metal, something tells me it will come back dirty as all get out. F-C its one thing to have metal, but its a different thing to have too much, or have unneccessary amounts...it should still feel admech with more colour, right now it looks like a big block of metal painting something, because your eye doesnt look at the details because everything is the same, there is no differentiation this doesnt have to come in the form of painting armour plates different colours...you can use red/green/purple/orange/yellow/etc washes to add a bit of tonal variation in places, or using weathering in a more applied manner to differentiate between parts from grime and such theres many ways...you can apply liquid mask with some scotchbrite pad(or rough foam) to build up texture...you could use a bit of dirt(real dirt) mixed with some paint and maybe some acrylic medium....you can visit military modelling forums for ideas on weathering, thats about all they do, they barely even paint vehicles at all inks are decent for oils, or even better? --> oil paints itd be nice to seem some shadows applied, at least in the darkest recesses if not on more areas heres an idea http://www.coolminiornot.com/166293 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153824-cerberus-tank-project-close-to-done-now-touch-up-required/page/2/#findComment-1807927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
empty choke Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 hey ryan its me greg from the store i finally found ya on here =P but yeah the modle looks great are you in on the the new years apoc also i am done with the false promises of the Emperor im doing all csm nowi converted my land raider to chaos and im working on a unit of csm ill have pics up soon :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153824-cerberus-tank-project-close-to-done-now-touch-up-required/page/2/#findComment-1816943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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