Grey Mage Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Yet IIRC horus was undefeated in personal cobat with his brothers with the exception of once, when russ had the better of him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1796421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1796575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisowen Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 Yet IIRC horus was undefeated in personal cobat with his brothers with the exception of once, when russ had the better of him. Hey I never said the fluff made sense.... Or was even made sense with its self!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1797171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Well lets note that that doesnt include actual on the field battle, but jsut sparing matches.... Russ was an unruly kid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1797428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 So is there an instance or possibility that the 13th or elements of can/would join with another Great Company during a battle/game? Side by side as allies or in support of one another (either way with the Great Company or the 13th as the majority of units and the other as support elements)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1798501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 So is there an instance or possibility that the 13th or elements of can/would join with another Great Company during a battle/game? Side by side as allies or in support of one another (either way with the Great Company or the 13th as the majority of units and the other as support elements)? No, not with the same FOC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1798520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 So is there an instance or possibility that the 13th or elements of can/would join with another Great Company during a battle/game? Side by side as allies or in support of one another (either way with the Great Company or the 13th as the majority of units and the other as support elements)? Not in one FOC rules wise. But fluff wise... heck ya! Actually the latest Space Wolf book, Wolf's Honour includes the 13th Company, Ragnar, Torin, Haegr and a pack of Wulfen fight alongside the 13th Company against the Thousand Sons. Its an interresting read, perhaps not the best written fluff ever but... meh. During the 13th Black Crusade the 13th Company came out of the Eye of Terror chasing after their quary and this was foretold by the Rune Priests of the Space Wolves, though Logan Grimnar seemed to neither worry nor was he overly surprised. He also didn't say anything when asked by other Imperial agencies about the 13th Company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1798554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Thanks for the info. It's been a while and I am just getting back into things. I think I need an acronym guide. I can figure out some (and I'll probably kick myself) but what is FOC? It was a long midnight shift and I have to get some sleep soon. I just can't come up with anything right now. Thanx in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1798577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 FOC stands for the Force Organisation Chart, the standard block of allowed units in any single army. 1 HQ and 2 Troops are mandatory. In addition to that you have 4 more Troops, 1 additional HQ, 3 Elites, 3 Fast Attack and 3 Heavy Support. The Space Wolves however have a slightly different organisation. You must take 1 HQ for every 750pts of your army, no more... no less. So Space Wolves do not have the standard HQ slots that other armies have. Additionally all Wolf Guard in your army take up just one Elites FOC slot no matter how many units those 20 Wolf Guard are split into. The final funky thing the wolves can do is our Venerable Dreadnaughts can be either Elites or HQ. Which makes them perfect as stop gap units, if you need an additional HQ the Ven Dread can fulfill that requirement, if you don't it serves as an Elites. Quite usefull really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1798620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgad Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Force Organisation Chart. It basically says in the 13th company rules that they can't be taken as allies or take allies themselves. edit: Actually, it only says they are never joined by allies or units from other lists. Though, could they theoretically be taken as allies by another force? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1798624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Force Organisation Chart. It basically says in the 13th company rules that they can't be taken as allies or take allies themselves. edit: Actually, it only says they are never joined by allies or units from other lists. Though, could they theoretically be taken as allies by another force? Not in a single FOC. Of course 2 v 2 games, Apocalypse and so forth are another matter entirely. Most of the time you'd combine 13th Company with other armies its going to be games where more than one FOC is in use anyway so its not really that big a deal unless you want to take Wulfen in a normal Space Wolf army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1798641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Okay, got it. Yup I knew what FOC was just was too brain dead this morning to figure it out. Thank you Brothers for the information. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/153949-wulfen-and-the-space-wolves-in-general/page/2/#findComment-1798878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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