ArmouredWing Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Here's something that I've been considering of late. I believe that the new C:SM states that their rhinos have a 12 person capacity and this has got me thinking. Being a predominantly SoB player it seems to me that the choice between footsloggers and mech sisters is pretty much governed by the principle that a rhino has room for 10 sisters. This is because of the influence squad size has on faith rolls and particularly in relation to DG. However if, when it eventually happens, we also get rhinos with the ability to carry 12 this will effectively combine mech and footsloggers into one tidy little bundle. Anyone else considered this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154060-csm-the-future-of-wh/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakehunter52 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I don't think so. I've been reading the discussion on "Way of the Flame Warrior" about the difference between Fire Sisters and Earth Sisters and see that there is much more significant difference than just having a better roll for DG. Foot sloggers take safety in numbers, that bad dice rolls have less of an impact on this and thus are more consistent and durable. Getting the near guarantee of DG is just a side benefit, that they will even more overwhelm the enemy if they come in range. But once again that's the thing, earth Sisters seriously lack mobility and have a hard time getting the chance to bring all of that massive firepower on any unit. This is a totally different play style than when they are mounted in rhinos, regardless of having 2 more sisters in it. Now, don't get me wrong, I think it would be great if we could pack in a couple more girls in there, would make the squads more durable and more likely to wipe a squad out before they can touch us but I really don't think that it will change how we use them at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154060-csm-the-future-of-wh/#findComment-1796362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Angel Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Here's something that I've been considering of late. I believe that the new C:SM states that their rhinos have a 12 person capacity and this has got me thinking. Rhinos = 10 Razorback = 6 Drop Pod = 12 Land Raider/Land Raider Redeemer = 12 Land Raider Crusader = 16 No such luck on increasing squad size transported by Rhinos. Though if you want to, a Chimera can be taken as an IST or Allied choice and in 5th ed is no longer restricted to carrying just the squad it was purchased with. You can't deploy IN it, but you can deploy next to an empty one. That transport fields 12. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154060-csm-the-future-of-wh/#findComment-1796365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 If the IG codex states that its transports are dedicated, then they are so. The Codex overrides the BRB, and unlike the C:WH codex, many other codices do indeed have dedicated transports. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154060-csm-the-future-of-wh/#findComment-1796482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Angel Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 You're the expert on all things Witch Hunter, Melissia. I honestly haven't done enough digging around with allied DH armies to notice if I can start playing with Transports yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154060-csm-the-future-of-wh/#findComment-1796488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I'm not an expert, I just have a good memory... If you include sororitas, their rhinos CAN transport grey knights and other non-sororitas armies. This is because of this line in the FAQ: TransportsThe second print run of the Codex removed references to a transport vehicle only being usable by the unit that bought it . So a DH army with allied Sisters can use the Sisters as a durable objectives capper, while the Grey Knights themselves go riding around in the Sororitas' vehicles. This includes rhinos and immolators. For example, one could purchase a group of Dominians and put them behind cover on an objective close to your deployment area, and use their immolator to transport a siz-strong squad of grey knights closer to the front. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154060-csm-the-future-of-wh/#findComment-1796535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 The IG Codex Chimera is dedicated, so using inducted Armored Fist squad transports won't work.. HOWEVER... The Chimera from WH isn't.. so using Inquisitorial Storm Trooper Chimeras is possible. Otherwise Melissia has the right of it. Also remember that Inquisitors can take a Land Raider as a transport as well... so you can squeeze in a few more transports that way (pending the exact quotes on who has what as dedicated). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154060-csm-the-future-of-wh/#findComment-1796543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 The quote I gave is for the entire C:WH. All transports in the codex are un-dedicated as of fifth edition. This includes an Inquisitor's land raider. That is, the C:WH Inquisitor's land raider, not necessarilly the C:DH inquisitor's land raider. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154060-csm-the-future-of-wh/#findComment-1796549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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