Inquistor Lord and co personal Ship

[Captain Hajime]

So the RP brought up and interesting question. What is a reasonable for an Inquistor to have as a personal Space Ship. Not being Familur with BFG I was wondering what would be reasonable?

[Commissar Molotov]

In the introduction to the Eisenhorn omnibus, Dan Abnett is quick to draw a distinction between various types of Inquisitors. Whilst some, like Inquisitor Lord Coteaz, are very martial, with massive retinues and huge resources, other Inquisitors are more understated. That may be because they don't want to draw attention to their actions. Eisenhorn is shown cultivating contacts with a trader and using the trader's vessel to travel from planet to planet. The only Inquisitor to be depicted with a ship would be the Lord Inquisitor, Rorken. (Though as it's not a Black Ship, it seems likely he's merely assumed control of the Navy Battleforce that eventually attacks 56-Izar.

 

The fluff for the Inquisitor game also has Inquisitor Covenant blackmailing a disgraced Rogue Trader to provide him with the services of his vessel.

 

I think that most Inquisitors wouldn't have access to Imperial Navy vessels. Whilst they can theoretically requisition anything, the Imperial Navy is unlikely to be pleased by such actions, and Inquisitors too prone to megalomania might well be called to account by their peers. Senior Inquisitors might well be able to maintain their own vessels, but it really depends on what suits your Inquisitor's modus operandi. A Battlecruiser isn't a very subtle instrument, and could end up being a hindrance in certain situations.

[Grand Master Tyrak]

A full Imperial Navy ship - no.

 

An armed merchant vessel - yes.

 

Essentially use what a civilian captain/Rogue Trader could have for Imperial Navy stuff. Things like transports, Q-ships (transports with lots of hidden guns), armed freighters, things like that. Perhaps heading into Pirate territory (BFG 'Wolf Packs' supplement) if you are Radical. The Supplement useful for this is Armada Appendicies (merchantmen and Q-ships), and if you can find them the BFG 'Wolf Pack' supplement (pirates) and the Merchant & Rogue Trader fleets supplement.

 

For Ex-SM stuff, I would say no Strike Cruisers or above, and whatever you have it must no longer be needed by the original owners. So, you couldn't turn up at The Rock or The Fang and requisition a Thunderhawk, but you could take one left behind by the Astral Claws when they fled as renegades due to lack of pilots.

 

Aything better than that would be loan-only.

[Skytear]

I would say this depends entirely on the Inquisitor and how you want to play him.

Some will want big ships while some prefer smaller faster ships to get where they want to fast and without notice.

I can't comment about the books - I have to admit I haven't read them. I've ordered a real bunch of them and I hope I can at least

read some over the Christmas holidays. What I know is from the Codizes I have and the wonderful WWW.

 

Showing up with 50 Grey Knights, 250 Stormtroopers and a Fleet that can carpet-bomb a planet can just about

be as effective as foiling a chaos incursion by blastering the head cultist into bits before it all can really start. The first solution will entail less personal risk due to the awesomeness of GKs and nova cannons, but the second one will actually be work.

That is one of the privileges of rank also - the more you have, the less you have to worry of putting your head 'directly' in the line of fire if you don't want to. Alright, we're talking 40k here, but there is a difference between an HQ Choice being shielded by 'his' army and an Elite Inquisitor choice

being a soldier in said army, right?

The Lord will be the boss and expect his underlings to work.

 

I agree with the above poster that Lords should have access to bigger ships more easily, it just makes sense to have a Lady or Lord in a big ship.

Those guys are power players, they need the protection, the prestige and the firepower. Where they go, people buckle and those that don't

have something to hide anyway. If you want to talk big guns and lots of 'em, take a Lord.

Look at the army list - we have so many options of what to take that if you extent this into space, you can have your pick.

 

Playing a regular inquisitor in the other thread, which are still far from slouches, mind you, I'd say the feeling of my character is more being in the line of fire and manning the frontline.

They have their own retinues, own forces but, 40kly, they're still an "Elite" choice. They're not HQ, so I say let them have nifty wargear, let them have a retinue and a landraider (that transcends to me as the right to have a space vessel for transportation too).

 

Phew. To summarize, I would say Lords can the ride they pretty much want, they've earned the right to, while Inquisitors should be a bit more on the spec-ops side of things. I'm talking pimped up trader vessels, high-tech thunderhawks or even exotic custom made rides here.

To me that's good style. If you're a Lord, think big, because you have to. It you're an Inquisitor, think smart, because you need to or smth.

 

Of course, the thread has no rules, so if you want to ride out in a fluffily redecorated monolith, hahaha. Yeah.

[Grand Master Tyrak]

A quick point Skytear, the Inquisitor/Inquisitor Lords divide isn't nearly so clear. Inquisitor Lord just means extra responsibilities and a little extra 'official' authority. Inquisitors can be as powerful as Lords, it just depends on influence and favours. It is entirely possible for an suitablly venerable and influential Inquisitor to be represented using the Inquisitor Lord profile, without actually holding the official rank of Inquisitor Lord.

[Tauren]

The Inquisitor from the space wolves ragnar saga had his own personal ship. They often do own a ship if they use it for transport. On the other-hand they can also usually acquire transport from any ship via decree, and simply use it as their own for the time being.

[frod]

Sometimes an Inquisitor may have his own smaller vessel that can be used for short (Inter system) trips and to go planetside and simply use traders to transport him nd his ship/retinue between systems, this is how Eisenhorn works with a small Gun Cutter, however from the books I get teh feeling that this "Small" vessel is still at least twice the size of something like a Thunderhawk as it is described as having individual cabins for crew members and a separate engine room.

 

On other occasions the Inquisition have been known to directly comission their own ships up to and including the largest sized warships, however these would generally not be used for a single Inquisitors transport although they might occasionally be used as such if a powerful Inquisitor needed one.

 

The thing to always bear in mind with Inquisitors is that they are all individuals and many have backgrounds prior to their joining the Inquisition, thus an Inquisitor with a naval background might well have a large ship or even comand of a small fleet if say he were tasked with dealing with Xeno incursions into a corner of the Imperium, whilst his associate might travel 3rd class in the cheapest transports because he wants to work in secret, having a battlecruiser or even a shuttlecraft with him would give the game away

[jester_prince]

I would guess its all situational, an inquisitor that wants to arrive no a planet unseen and unknown would arrive on local transportation or refugee ships or something to hide his profile, if the inquisitor needs to call upon a planet wide bombardment after his investigation is complete then so be it, i wouldn't think all but the greatest of inquisitor lords would fly around in a huge Gothic cruiser or w/e they are on a regular basis. Inquisitor Lords probably do very little in the way of infiltration anyway, they would be able to employ spies and assasins for that and simply direct it all. Something subtle is much more likely on a permanent basis for standard Inquisitors. A ship disguised to look civilian would be great, hidden guns and extra nippy engines. Something deceptive, looks like a hunk of junk but goes like the clappers and packs a punch.

[Inquisitor Fox]

Also lots of it depends on circumstance. The only reason Nicole was on a Mars class Battlecruiser is the assembled force she had been assisting in the summer campaign with the Mordant 13th was on said ship! When something came up she was able to ask very nicely for a ride to another location, and the fleet was able to work it into it's schedule.

 

I'm actually considering fluffing her as working with the Cadian Internal Guard, which would mean she's technically seconded to the Cadian Military.. which gives a whole different set of available stuff, but the vote's still out on that anyway. Suffice it to say it was more a quirk of circumstance as opposed to standard operating procedure. Generally speaking, Inquisitors would function more like James Bond in asking the Navy quite nicely if they happened to have a ship going to X because of a confidential thing they can't tell them their presence is required there, or simply taking regular civilian transport or so on based on what is going on, rather than owning the ship.

[Grand Master Tyrak]

jester_prince Posted Today, 03:59 PM

A ship disguised to look civilian would be great, hidden guns and extra nippy engines. Something deceptive, looks like a hunk of junk but goes like the clappers and packs a punch.

 

Thats a Q-Ship in a nutshell. :lol:

[Captain Hajime]

Well The Inquistor for the RP is a Lord Character [HQ] and his former Students Abby and James [Elite] and they pool thier resources. I hoping to not have to go and scam a Navel vessel every time I need to go some where so I was thinking of something that can move 100 people arounds [not counting basic crew.]

[The emperors chosen]

whats the biggest ship an Inquisitor can get (mine has a light cruiser)?

[Grand Master Tyrak]

On loan - anything Imperial Navy, so Ramilies Class Starforts, Emperor/Retributor/Oberon/Apocalyse Class Battleships, stuff like that. There is no limit to what an Inquisitor can theoretically requisition. What there is a limit to is what an Inquisitor can requisition from the Space Marines, since if they can provide a good enough reason at trial they can refuse the Inquisitor's demands.

And, of course, the rule of thumb is you do not requisition anything from the Chamber Militant, you are able to command such resources anyway so its not wise to abuse that priviledge.

 

What an Inquisitor can privately own - any kind of merchant ship, various converted transports, anything used by Pirates or Rogue Traders (up to and including frigates if you are Radical and so don't care about the concerns of the Navy): Armed freighters, Q-ships, transports, escort carrier, recommissioned ex-Navy vessels, escorts. Its worth noting that even the smaller transports will have a crew of hundreds. Inquisitors don't own the larger ships simply because they do not have the manpower to crew them. Requisitioning Navy vessels on loan makes much more sense since the ship can retain its command structure, the Captain (or Admiral for a full Battlegroup) simply takes orders from the Inquisitor. Its worth noting that very few Inquisitors will be able to direct a full fleet engagement and so issue only vague commands, leaving the experts to decide on the means.

[Captain Hajime]

On loan - anything Imperial Navy, so Ramilies Class Starforts, Emperor/Retributor/Oberon/Apocalyse Class Battleships, stuff like that. There is no limit to what an Inquisitor can theoretically requisition. What there is a limit to is what an Inquisitor can requisition from the Space Marines, since if they can provide a good enough reason at trial they can refuse the Inquisitor's demands.

And, of course, the rule of thumb is you do not requisition anything from the Chamber Militant, you are able to command such resources anyway so its not wise to abuse that priviledge.

 

What an Inquisitor can privately own - any kind of merchant ship, various converted transports, anything used by Pirates or Rogue Traders (up to and including frigates if you are Radical and so don't care about the concerns of the Navy): Armed freighters, Q-ships, transports, escort carrier, recommissioned ex-Navy vessels, escorts. Its worth noting that even the smaller transports will have a crew of hundreds. Inquisitors don't own the larger ships simply because they do not have the manpower to crew them. Requisitioning Navy vessels on loan makes much more sense since the ship can retain its command structure, the Captain (or Admiral for a full Battlegroup) simply takes orders from the Inquisitor. Its worth noting that very few Inquisitors will be able to direct a full fleet engagement and so issue only vague commands, leaving the experts to decide on the means.

 

By the Emperor himself that a lott of leg work. for what I thought was a simple question.

[ripath]

since fluff is non in game the end of existence is the only limit on anything.

 

By the Emperor himself that a lott of leg work. for what I thought was a simple question.

 

figuring out how your inquisitor got his wheels or wings isn't bad or nearly as time consuming as naming all of your steel legion troops and giving them a back story.

[Grand Master Tyrak]

Captain Hajime Posted Today, 12:56 AM

By the Emperor himself that a lott of leg work. for what I thought was a simple question.

 

:)

Inquisitor Tyrak comes from a Naval background, so I went over a lot of this stuff while writing his backstory.