Deciple of Lorgar Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Ok, lets say that chaos in the end wins, and that mean totaly that chaos wins.; full STOP., All xenos are around (maybe not tau) when the imperiam falls. what do we do next? we still have Xenos to encounte, keep that inmind but what do we have to do next? As in: we over throw the imperium, all the chaos gods are in rule, what is the next step/phase in out plan? whjat is the next black crusade all about if we domminate all we have imposed? do we continue the origional crusades or do we start something completely new? (btw as a more then faithfull Word Bearer I know what we do, this is too the rest of the legions/renegades) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 If Chaos is able to topple the Imperium this is how I see things going 1) Constant fighting with Imperial Rebels and survivors (sounds weird if you think about Star Wars haha) 2) Constant fighting with Orks, go figure 3) Possible focus on Eldar, aiming to knockout their Craftworlds one at a time 4) Escalating fighting with Necrons and Tyranids And assuming Chaos is able to survive steps 1-4 5) Constant infighting between the Cult Legions with the Undivided Legions acting as temporary allies or seeking to carve out their own little empire, so basically a physical representation of the Warp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Pretty much the return of the age of strife. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warp Angel Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I was under the impression that as each world falls to chaos, it becomes a demon world and allows places like the Eye of Terror to expand (or at least allow the Warp to leak into the material universe). This would create an ever expanding area of chaos that would eventually consume the galaxy. With their ability to drift in the space between star systems, the Eldar would probably hold out the longest. Orks, Tau, and the Imperium would slowly be swallowed up. Even if THEY survived, their worlds (and eventually them) would become part of a larger chaos. The Necrons would never be able to save their worlds without the intervention of their gods, but I'm not sure that Chaos would care that they had a bunch of soulless machines within their realm. Pretty much the same thing with bugs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 The next big war would be orks, but the chaos legions and renegades would turn on each other as well and fall into small empires constantly trying to exand by taking each others space. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Drakist Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 The emperor is dead and the Imperium is crushed. Chaos reigns supreme over the universe, but the loss of the imperium leads to the elevation of a previously unknown Chaos power. Chaos space marines flock to this new power in droves feeling that this new power can offer them many rewards. This power is Horus, however not the Horus we knew. Horus is wary of the Chaos powers due to his previous experience("they made me try to kill daddy!") and is stronger\smarter for it. The Death of the Emperor also somehow empowers Horus to be the new most powerful being on the block. Abaddon and the Black Legion become the Champions of Horus once more as he fights to bring the imperium under his vision. Horus is neither evil nor good, he just persues his vision of the Galaxy through the Black Legion. Oh, and the "Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus/Black Legion" rename themselves once again......big surprise there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 the barriers between warp space and normal space crumble, the eye of terror expands and swallows up everything it's path :lol: there is only chaos............... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razrhaghul Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 well aside from horus' soul being obliterated, the eye would expand engulfing the reality of most of the galaxy. massive infighting would ensue, leaving the gods bored. their power would ultimately wain and disintegrate having subsumed that which fed them, with the unsteady, predictable actions and emotions of humanity...who by now if not dead would be twisted beyond any recognition by the immaterial forces that blanket the galaxy. the chaos gods, when all their servants are either dead and gone, or so embedded within chaos itself that they no longer hold any impact on the actions of the material realm, would lose their personalities what makes them separate, eventually coalescing back into raw Chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 So basically, if you win, you're screwed, if you lose, you're still screwed, why do people go over to chaos again? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razrhaghul Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 live for the moment, and if your fortunate enough for the rest of existence (though not as you would as a mortal) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Got it, so it's about the fight, not the victory? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razrhaghul Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 well for those more dedicated to serving chaos, rather than those that wish to wield it like it were a bolt pistol. though some others might disagree with me on that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Jokey answer alert. With the death of the Emperor and the collapse of the Imperium, the last barrier protecting the galaxy from the greatest terror it has ever known will disappear, allowing this new force to spill out and conquer the galaxy. This power..........Chuck Norris. Looks like Chaos is about to get an order of Roundhouse kicks! On a more serious note, if Chaos won, against the Imperium, all the Xenos in the galaxy, and any other forces standing in their way, they'd still lose. The Chaos Gods need people to worship them, through battle, decadence and other ways. Even if the cults and other factions fought one another, they'd lose more and more followers with every battle, Chaos would eventually consume itself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minigun762 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 The Chaos Gods need people to worship them, through battle, decadence and other ways. Even if the cults and other factions fought one another, they'd lose more and more followers with every battle, Chaos would eventually consume itself. I don't think it would happen quite like that. Instead I believe a balance would be achieved. Remember just because something is a daemon world, doesn't mean people aren't born or reproduce. Battles would be waged, wars won and lost. But the 4 Chaos Gods would all keep each other in check. I think its pointed out quite nicely in the Tzeentch section of the Chaos Codex. Tzeentch is described as not having an end purpose for all his plans as doing so would negate his very reason for being. The same is true for the other gods, they seek the constant perpetual state of conflict where their power is at its greatest. Winning isn't the point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lay Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 The Chaos Gods need people to worship them, through battle, decadence and other ways. Even if the cults and other factions fought one another, they'd lose more and more followers with every battle, Chaos would eventually consume itself.By that logic the Eye of Terror would be nothing but a big lifeless void. Edit of an edit of an edit! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razrhaghul Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 well people might be born, just not recognizable as actual people. rather twisted mutants and parodies of what one might call a human. and then there's the purity of their souls to question? nothings tastier like pure souls, ripped from their bodies to feed the gods. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Medina Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 It was mentioned in the designers notes for Skarband that the Chaos of the Warhammer Realm is the same as that of the 40K universe; although they are completely seperate universes the power of Chaos transcends all. So they are distinct with no cross over but they are all facets of the same; the contradiction is only a human perspective....blind to the glory of Chaos. So whilst the Gods have drawn the best of their power in the 40K universe from Humans, there are billions of other universes giving strength to the Gods; therefore it wouldn't matter if one universe collapses into the warp - there are an infinity more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury_of_Fenris Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 i assumed that the chaos gods with so much power would just destroy everythnig in their path as unless you kill everythnigtat even thinks of the chaos gods theyll exist so i reckon theyd break out with billions of demons and just let the glaxy burn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1805961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor_wu Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 This is a very interesting situation. I think there will be some in fighting. however some of the legions may take there own areas of space. Basically the galaxy would become a giant eye. However the tyranids would be the main enemy because they are form a different galaxy that is if there are more hive fleets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1806115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 and after that the real hive fleet comes eats up the whole galaxy [like it did at least one time before]. no mortals no emotions . no emotions warp becomes silent again and the chaos gods become like they were pre slann/ctan war. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1806339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brew city envoy Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 we all go to khorne's house for cookies! The best part is is that chaos WILL win because they will always be spawning from the depths of the imperium! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1807401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadams_42 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I havent read the novel, only the summary, but I think its Legion, the horus hersey novel regarding the Alpha Legion, that I am refrencing. Correct me if I am wrong. Not to give too much away, but the outcome predicted in the novel is that, If chaos were to defeat the empire, and slaughter humanity, than it would in fact defeat itself. Seeing as how the Chaos gods feed off of human emotion, without Humanity they would starve to death, and the universe would be free of the chaos threat. but everyone would be dead. every human anyways. take that how you will. ps. first post in two years. feels nice to be back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1807462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_beowolf_x1 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I havent read the novel, only the summary, but I think its Legion, the horus hersey novel regarding the Alpha Legion, that I am refrencing. Correct me if I am wrong.Not to give too much away, but the outcome predicted in the novel is that, If chaos were to defeat the empire, and slaughter humanity, than it would in fact defeat itself. Seeing as how the Chaos gods feed off of human emotion, without Humanity they would starve to death, and the universe would be free of the chaos threat. but everyone would be dead. every human anyways. take that how you will. ps. first post in two years. feels nice to be back. lol same, took a long break, but not two years :P anyway, yea its Legion that your talking about. Although I have to wonder about this theory. Would they slaughter humanity if it destroyed them? I mean if you look at Tzeentch, he's gota know that this would happen if Chaos won, so Im thinking he would have some sort of backup plan so that he could come out on top of all the gods, but then again, once he becomes the Lord of all Chaos Gods, he would basically implode because theres no more plotting to do.... his ambition would end, thus killing his essence. but if Chaos managed to kill the emperor, the Starchild would just come and beat Chaos... its pretty sad for us marines... :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1807679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lay Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Chaos wouldn't destroy itself after being victorious. "Legion" states that if the traitors won the Heresy, Horus would eradicate mankind out of self-loathing and Chaos would be destroyed with them. The other outcome is that Chaos wins over a period of several millennia - that's pretty much the current timeline. but if Chaos managed to kill the emperor, the Starchild would just come and beat Chaos When was the last time the Star Child theory was treated as canon by GW? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1807717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_beowolf_x1 Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Chaos wouldn't destroy itself after being victorious. "Legion" states that if the traitors won the Heresy, Horus would eradicate mankind out of self-loathing and Chaos would be destroyed with them.The other outcome is that Chaos wins over a period of several millennia - that's pretty much the current timeline. Dunno if you noticed, but you just contradicted yourself there. If Horus had won, Chaos would have destroyed itself, thats why Alpharius sided with Horus EDIT: my bad I see what you mean. But still without their main enemy, and if Chaos do conquer the whole galaxy, no, the universe, then they're just going to turn on each other, its only obvoius When was the last time the Star Child theory was treated as canon by GW? By GW? a long time ago. By Fans? it never went away :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/154756-we-own-it-all/#findComment-1807723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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