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Karamazov or Living Saint?


Mosk

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With the new rules, I'll vote for the Living Saint. She is incredibly difficult to kill and always my most expensive unit, she's incredibly mobile so 75% of the scenarios make it easy to at least hang onto an objective (her being the objectve). Karamazov is to slow and an easy target, towering above all my models and most hills, buildings and tanks. It's not about kills anymore, it's all about objectives.
Ya I like the capturing stuff, but most of the guys I play with (and two girls) started playing in the 80s, some in 90s. I started in 98' but I mostly played warhammer fantasy, so going with conserving old hammer stuff, my club, mainly play for kill points. But we do apoc games that have over 50,000 regularly.
the biggest con for Karamazov is that the model is so damn ugly, and that hes rubbish in general of course, the Celestine model is gorgeous, never mind the rules for her, there just an added bonus with an amazing sculpt, its the only model in YEARS that GW has sculpted well
I use both, at different times. Celestine leads my SOB list, obviously she needs to work with Seraphim. Karamazov is in charge of the Ecclesiarchy list, when I've got a lot of Arcos, Penitents and Zealots. If you read their rules, they tell you how to use them. I had a lot of fun painting them both.

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