ARM0R3D ASSASSIN Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 is there some sort of trick to it? I get it done, but fewer that three coats would b nice. when i paint i stoke pretty fast, and i use he reaper paints, but it always takes a few coats to make my red a consistant red. if theres a layer-saving method, i'd like to hear it. (and i play blood angels so its all red all the time ;) ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwenCrute Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Mechrite red, the GW Foundation Paint, has obscenely good coverage. 1 coat is all you need for your base. The actaul shade of red it is is kinda dusty, though, so you may want to put a more conventional red paint over the top, in which case it'll make an easy hop from red to red, rather than primer to red. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1823659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
odinswolf Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 any bright colour (red,yellow etc) will be a LOT easier to paint if you invest in an airbrush or the gw spray gun. I used an airbrush for my sisters of battle (red) and my imperial fists (yellow) both gave supberb results over a white under coat with 1 coat of colour!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1823662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
olii Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 3-layer method: 1: spray red (can or airbrush) 2: wash 50:50 red:brown 3: highlight /olii Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1823868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drathmere Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 black undercoat foundation red blood red drybrush very dry blazing orange drybrush. --done...your khorne\n\n\n blood angles are painted Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1824405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM0R3D ASSASSIN Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 u guys over-estimate both my budget, and my paint collection the only red i got is blood red, no washes, inks ect, and i dont have the budget for a spray gun Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1824576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GumbaFish Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I paint over a light grey undercoat as opposed to white or black so your mileage may vary but I have found that snakebite leather coats beautifully over the grey. Then you can do a wetbrush or overbrush of red over it to get fast coverage and a thin layer of red painted regularly after that to solidify things up a bit. If you dont have snakebite look it up and just see if you have any browns that seem to match it closely. Or even look and see if you can get some fine auto primer that is a light brown shade, then you could go straight to the red and it would only set you back 4 or 5 bucks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1825062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asterixlee Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 u guys over-estimate both my budget, and my paint collection the only red i got is blood red, no washes, inks ect, and i dont have the budget for a spray gun Even if your not too worried about making Demon-calibur models, you should invest in a couple different shades of your troop's main color. At the very least, buy the foundation (mechrite red in the citadel variety) and a bright yellow that you can use to cut your blood red with, making different shades for highlight. 8 bucks and a bit more time will make a huge difference in the overall appearance of your squad. And if you really, really are on a budget, Stick to just the foundation paints (citadel ones have the white caps) as these require just one good coat to look halfway decent. You don't need a "spray gun" to make wonderful looking troops. The largest factor by far is how much time you put into painting, though a larger selection of colors helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1826193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM0R3D ASSASSIN Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 now a bright yellow i have, how would i go about making this work with the red? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1826351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asterixlee Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Read the link I posted for a detailed tutorial, but basically, you're going to mix just a bit of the yellow with just a bit more of the red to create an orange that you're happy with. The way highlighting works is pretty cool, just a tiny stripe of a brighter color lightens the whole piece. This orange is going to be your highlight color, paint a very thin line of it along the emphasized portions of your marine. look for the right angles on his shoulders and helmet, his legs and feet. It may take some practice to get the line thin enough, but with time it will make the whole model look better. For best results, start with mixing a very dark orange (say 3 parts red, 1 part yellow), paint a stripe along the areas you wish to highlight. Then make another batch of orange, this one 50:50, paint a THINNER stripe on the edge of highlighted areas. This creates a step-ladder of the eye. At a quick glance, it will simply look like its blended. If you want to make it look more naturally blended, then water a bit of your blood red waaaay down and paint it over the highlighted areas, this will tie the whole process together. EDIT: And seriously, you'll save yourself tons of time if you invest in a pot of foundation, and your models will look less blotchy. Here's the link of the tutorial on the technique: http://www.ppemporium.com/painting-a-miniature-guide.php Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1826372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM0R3D ASSASSIN Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 thanks, that would take some of the heat off any un-even spots in the red Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1826377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedwin183 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I play Red Templars and I get my red done quickly as such: Prime black. Basecoat Mechrite red. Wash with Baal red wash. Highlight with Blood red. Detail colors. Done. It's really the best/fastest way to go if you're doing mass red. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1826743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asterixlee Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 That will work great as well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1826901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 How come that no-one has suggested this: Base: White Undercoat Blood Red Additions: Red ink wash (or a new GW reddish wash) Highlight blood red Painting red directly over black is rubbish. I usualy paint a layer of skull white over the black before doing any reds or yellows (almost never do yellows though). I then do a wash of red ink to darken the red. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1826986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedwin183 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 If you use the foundations red over black, it covers just as well as if it were on white and it gives the model a darker hue. Really nice for those of us who desire a red that doesn't look like khorne/blood angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1827394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remiel Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 But now how would you go about painting red cloth. I have this problem with my sisters. The red is always too bright and i don't know how to get that medium-dark red that looks properly layered and shaded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1827629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedwin183 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Paint the cloth the color red you want and then wash it over with badab black. It'll make the red look like a nice, deep, dark, rich red. That's typically what i do when i need to make red look dark like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1828487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remiel Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Ok thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1828490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onisuzume Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Or something I've read today in an old white dwarf: Base the cloth red gore and then highlight with blood red. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1828725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serraphim Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 For a crimson, I would say base it in scorched brown then work your way up to a 50/50 blood red/red gore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1832498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serif Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 another way to get a rich vibrant red is to base white, mix red with white 2rd/1wht so it's a nice pink colour, then paint solid red. Adding white to a colour really helps coverage and consistancy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1838165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusktiger Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 this is what i did for my bottle of red fabric: bottle of blood red bottle of chaos black paint eye dropper i took one bottle of blood red, and i added 3-4 full squeezes of chaos black to the blood red bottle, and mixed it by first stiring it really well, and then shaking it for a few minutes while watching one of my shows. i got a nice deep even red that looks nice in contrast to the red gore i use for wax seals, and the blood red on armor. so if you can afford another paint bottle of blood red, thats a cheap full bottle worth of fabric red that coats nice and evenly. i'd start with just 2 squeezes of black from the eye dropper and test the results til you get the shade of darker red you want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1839343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson Cartel Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Just started a new BA army and here is the method i've found useful so far.. Armory grey primer mechrite red or gore red base coat bring the color up with blood red, and red ink wash on some models. So far this is working pretty well. i have been tempted however to use a "blood redish" spray paint color for some of my larger models to save time though... my 2 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-1840272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoseldarbloodangels Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 i play blood angels have a chapter built and is currently being painted. the first thing for easy easy paint job is white prime . shake can a lot! and spray away from model until white shows up better on what your spraying then blood red gw spray gun! i tell you its better then my airbrush less hassle and cheaper to fix clogs. then heavy wash baal red. for awesome table top quality. (this is time consuming but looks awesome. this is how mine are getting painted.) white prime spray blood red then line in carefully red gore in armor cracks extreme highlight blazing orange then water down your blood red about 20-40 percent. on palette. this is critical to master as this will allow you to hover the blood red over your darker colors and as water evaperates the red rest down over red gore. you see the reason everyone hates red is that if you notice as you stroke the paint on .the red PARTS on the model showing the underneath color. i will do another tutorial myself explaining this in more detail later. also when using brush strokes zig zag the brush as you apply the paint on large armour areas. its like you just want to shift the puddle of paint around so that you have even coverage. lastly use on only fine edges very sparingly bubonic brwn spray testers dullcoat or lusterless flat. this will help blend the paints and also darken red just a little. last choice just to get them painted fast and looking nice. army painter dot com Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156065-faq-painting-red/#findComment-2080882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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