rockdeity Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I'm having trouble deciding what I want to do for my forward LR element. I have done assterms to death, wanna try something different tonight. Thinking either GK or vanguard. I've done GK before but not vanguard since the new codex came out. Here's my thinking: GK Pros - WS5 - S6 - shroud - psychic hood - troops, so score - storm bolters - 1 PW Van pros - 1 more attack - 3 more PW and 1 more PF - combat tactics Both will probably be fearless from running with cassius, so that's a wash between using GK fearless or not having it. Here is the surrounding list: HQ: chaplain cassius Troops: scout squad, sniper rifles x 4, ML, camo cloaks, telion tac squad, +5, flamer, ML, PW, rhino Heavy: Vindicator, DB Whirlwind Land Raider, MM The last spot is either: Vanguard vets, +5, 4PW, PF or Grey Knights, +5, psychic hood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156738-vanguard-or-grey-knights/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTAG Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Personally, I'd use the Vanguard. Four attacks on the charge is pretty sweet. Though, remember, Fearless trumps Combat Tactics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156738-vanguard-or-grey-knights/#findComment-1832460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
night walker Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 though you cannot rule out the grey knights special abilitys along with there special weapons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156738-vanguard-or-grey-knights/#findComment-1832943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tiger Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 your forgetting another pro for the knights, there technically cheaper, I'd go knights, although I'd take a libby instead of useless Cassius personally Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156738-vanguard-or-grey-knights/#findComment-1832958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockdeity Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 The cassius thing was just for flavor. The role I wanted was a chappy for the rerolls and inv save, although libby would be fun too. Actually, he ended up doing really well though when I played this army last night. T6 and FnP made him stand against a hive tyrant and two shooty fexes, which all went down (with the rest of cassius' squad of course) leaving just his bionic marine ass standing. I chose the vanguard squad with 1 RB 2 PF and it did pretty well despite bad timing. Ironically, the fists died before attacking, leaving me with a relic blade sargeant (basically a justicar) and cassius on turn 3, so it wouldn't have mattered which I took (although the justicar would have had WS5 and a psychic hood). The RB took out one of the shooty fexes in hth on a charge all by himself, that was pretty fun (cassius didn't wound). Justicar couldn't have done that with only 3 attacks on the charge. Hard to say based on that game... jury's still out for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156738-vanguard-or-grey-knights/#findComment-1833631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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