Wolf Guard Hengist Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Ok heres my problem, I've always played wolves since as long as I can remember I just love them. I've tried other armies but it just doesnt work for me, the fluff and the style of the wolves is too addictive. Over the last few years I have enjoyed being one of the few SW players in my area and damn I love it, I love the codex as it is and I love the models as they are. I dont want change, change is bad! I play at games stores in two towns and at my gaming club and it bugs me when a new codex comes out and suddenly theres a swarm of whatever is the flavour of the month. I dont want Space Wolves to become flavour of the month!!!! I'm happy with my wolves as they are and I want them to stay that way. Does anyone else feel this way? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I have this feeling, but as sayd in other threads. We will welcome them to the fang, but when the dex is old and out dated, ill still be here, with my fellow wolves, drinking and having a good brawl :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1835855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgroenier Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Yeah I agree. I don't like when people play an army because it has a new dex. But I also welcome the new pups as in my area we are of seattle we are far and few. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1835862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I'll be waiting till the wolves become the flavor of the month then i'll show them who is the Great Wolf around here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1835930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 for me it depends on the persons, when we only see these newones ask and ask for advice but never try to help me i'm think i'm not going to like them. if they however try their best also for other i think they'll just fit in fine here:) i'm the only wolf player i know here in my area so i wouldn't mind new battlebrothers;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1836224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor 117 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 There will always be a need for new Blood Claws in the pack. I believe its our responsibility as veterans to help them along and "grow into their fangs".... Not to mention when they have a surge of "Flavor" players, other armies will test them out and not expect a veterans guile when they play us.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1836263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 *shrugs* If theres to many flavor of the month people Ill switch back to my eldar for a bit after Ive the hang of the codex, and woop them there. Then when theyve determined it isnt the most cheesetastic crapola of all time Ill go back to wolves and show them how it should have been done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1836272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Yeah I agree. I don't like when people play an army because it has a new dex. But I also welcome the new pups as in my area we are of seattle we are far and few. South Sound has one updating a Company of Wolves as well as a Wolf themed Chaos Legion. No idea when they'll be done as everything is still WIP status. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1836282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Back in 3rd one of the many reasons I picked wolves was because no one in my area played them and wanted something different. Breaks down something like this for me. Pros New models, new books, new artwork, cheap used models when the fad passes Cons, Bad rep due to influx of power gamers, The Ratio between large bearded Wolf Lords and actual SW armies will go way down, and the thousands of whelp questions that will come. WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1836312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I've been in the hobby for 7ish years now or more and have had to go through the influx of new noobs whenever a new codex comes out and it's really not so bad. The good ones stay, the bad ones lose again, and again, and again and end up selling their models for next to nothing. Just look at it as an opportunity to profit from the mistakes of idiots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1836618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 In time, those who stay on are true Space Wolves, loyal to their wolf brothers here and to the chapter. Those who leave, weren't worthy to begin with, and weren't worthy to stand in the halls of the Fang or to be called a son of Russ. Only time will tell, it's only way to weed out the weak.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1836665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Most of us here know that Space Wolves aren't an army well suited to Flavour of the Month Syndrome. You're either a Wolf or you aren't, and if we profit from the mistakes of fools then all the better for the true Long Fangs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1836721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Howland Greywolf Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I most heartidly agree. Wolves are not an army you just pick up and start playing with, they need careful thought and commitment. And once your a true wolf, you'll never go back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1838378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Ok heres my problem, I've always played wolves since as long as I can remember I just love them. I've tried other armies but it just doesnt work for me, the fluff and the style of the wolves is too addictive. Over the last few years I have enjoyed being one of the few SW players in my area and damn I love it, I love the codex as it is and I love the models as they are. I dont want change, change is bad! I play at games stores in two towns and at my gaming club and it bugs me when a new codex comes out and suddenly theres a swarm of whatever is the flavour of the month. I dont want Space Wolves to become flavour of the month!!!! I'm happy with my wolves as they are and I want them to stay that way. Does anyone else feel this way? Remember 3rd edition when the book came out and everyone including their mother started up space wolves?... then it died down a few months later. I wouldn't worry about it, it's the way everything goes, but people change ALL the time, yes we will have a flood of new players on the B&C saying they're starting "spacie wolfies kuz day r teh cooliest" and all of that stuff but give it a few months and the Fang will be back to normal... in the mean time we need to be thinking of ways to protect our ale from them! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1838578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marek Grimfang Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Been playing Wolves since 2nd Ed., but actually been playing their chapter since my second box of RTB01 marines in 1988. They were one of four chapters with decals relesed by GW and the vey few 40K players I was with all played the other three. I mainly did it as a fluke when I got their first Codex. Ive played other smaller armies since then but they have always been my mainstay. I found that when the second codex came out a lot of people played them for the models and the extra upgrade sprue the came with, but then turned to Templars. SWs at that time were AOTM, but because they deviated a lot from regular marines, ie: No Heavy Weapons in squads, nd were not a gun line army, a lot of people left them. I like moving and HtH. But got tired of the Grey. So mine are black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1838602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiodome Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Wolves are the exact opposite of 'Flavour of The Month' for me ^_^ I've been avoiding start a Space Wolf Force for as along as i've known about 40k (11 years now i think). For me i've always though of them as 'the army i'm saving for when i'm good enough at painting/converting', still don't feel i'm there, but the wolves are sacred and i refuse to do a poor job with them. Have always been my favourite background out of all the GW universes, and 'when' i do start them they will be a total labour of love. One day i'll consider myself good enough to be a wolf, and when i get there they'll be awe inspiring <_< (still can't stay away though, so doing a renegades list that's 'counts as' wolves using the SW codex :P ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1838633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 One day i'll consider myself good enough to be a wolf, and when i get there they'll be awe inspiring :cuss (still can't stay away though, so doing a renegades list that's 'counts as' wolves using the SW codex :o ) Pfft, man up and start the army already, 11 years is a bit long to be lettin em sit on the back burner. They're wolves after all, perfect doesn't enter into the equation. Do they have beards? Do they have bladed thingies? Do they have wolf pelts? If you answered yes to all of those, then they're Space Wolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1838784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I agree, get those wolves on the battle table! Sad things just sitting there, never seeing combat.. Careful though, because when they first come out, their going to hit the table all wulvened out due to the excitment of it all. Just take your time painting them and it will come, you can always go back and add pelts and what not later, prime em up, play em. WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1838817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corver Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I like them the way they are, and with the new marine dex some new toys and cheap rhino's to keep them alive is good for now. But knowing there is a new dex on the horizon does make me want to paint that 2nd BC squad and 3rd GH squad i have. If you look at chaplains and librarians compaired to RP/WP you can see that our characters wont be as strong in a new dex. Also i dont want to model some new stuff just for it to be invalid in 6 months time. I need a new dex so i can use my 3000+pts of 13th co that are gathering dust. Just had a thougt, i could make 6 GH and 2 BC packs using both armies. might be good to try that drop pod army... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1838953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Just had a thougt, i could make 6 GH and 2 BC packs using both armies. might be good to try that drop pod army... Why do you think I added my 13th company force to my wolves... well mainly for apoc games, but yea it added a LOT of models. :D I'm wondering why you think the characters will be worse, yes they'll likely loose a lot of their customization, but I'm looking forward to our lords getting WS 6, iron halos standard, our Librarians Ld 10, psychic hoods (not staffs that take up weapon slots...) AND force weapon that's 30 points less than if we equipped the same way plus extra Ld. Our Wolf Priests (granted it's only 2 points less equipped the same) but you get re-rolls to hit when you charge for him and the squad... umm yes please. The Special characters... Logan's bound to get eternal warrior and one more wound... possibly they'll provide bonuses to the rest of the army like the current special characters do... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1838978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corver Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I agree LD10 is a must on RP and the wargear upgrades. I have a feeling all characters will lose an attack (no more term honours) and WP/RP an I and maybe even a BS to bring them in line with codex marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1838986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Hengist Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 I think thats another fear as well really, I really enjoy the customisation I can put into my current lists and in my opinion there is a trend of "Codex simplification" going on at GW. As I go off into deep thought I think to myself "is Simplification a word?" <Takes a swag of Ale and shrugs> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1839077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Simplification is indeed a word. And it can be a good thing, the new C:SM is proof of that. Some of the more obscure or downright broken combos were removed and the Codex was rewritten to provide a good overview of Codex Chapters and the First Founding Legions. Personally, I think it's a good codex. Similarly, I think the BA/DA dexes are fine. They represent the style of those two chapters, and it's probably reasonable to not give everyone and his dog the relic blades that there are only two of... Some of the customisation is gone, but the trend towards USR's is perfectly reasonable - it means everyone knows what the ability is rather than the 3 different versions of True Grit in 3rd Ed. That was a nightmare. The big problem is the total lack of consistancy, particularly on wargear that should be identical over several codices and not the rules. This should have been thought through properly, but apparently it hasn't. Again, speaking from a personal level, I don't want to lose our Wolfy wargear, but I know it'll happen because it's happened to everyone else. I just hope we retain the feel of our army - anything else is icing to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1839088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 My gut, tells me I'd be happy with the new changes so I look forward to them. I also look forward to using the current rules until a change. What I can't wait for is new fluff and models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1839166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 We are known for our wargear and it was created outside of the normal gear found within the C: SM at the time. I can see where some gear needs to be removed, renamed or replaced with like gear from C:SM, however they would need to really work on retooling our HQs to keep us an effective fighting force. Things such as our beloved wolf tooth necklace would need to be worked into their stats and those of our wolf guard. I hope instead they can see in order to keep our unique fluff it is important that our wargear stay as versital and well as fluffy as possible. WG Vrox. Edit: spelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156984-im-a-selfish-little-pup/#findComment-1839171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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