Commander Sasha Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I am confused by the basic tactical squad wargear(good start!) I learnt on Macragge starter booklet, and the new codex seems to have changed some basics. Is the following correct? 1) All marines now have boltgun AND bolt pistol, so can fire either one in shooting phase? 2) Sergeant is now veteran automatically; basic 2 attacks, so if he changes his bolter to a chainsword, he now has 3 attacks? 3) Can Sergeant change bolt pistol to chainsword, so he still has boltgun? Presumably no extra attack, as bolter not CC? 4) Can Sergeant change both guns, say to take 2 power fists? 5) Can Sergeant change both guns to combi-weapons, thus allowing two shooting rounds of flame? And on bikes: 6) What use is the bolt pistol? Relentless means that the boltguns are always superior; have I missed something? 7) Can both bikers on the attack bike change their pistols to flamers? Sorry if this should be in a specific rules forum; Please advise how I should have posted! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 It should be over in the rules forum, but that's okay. It will get there. 1-5: Yes! (though #4 would be too expensive) 6: Potato? 7: My codex is unavailable, but I thought only regular bikes can swap such weapons. An attack bike is not a regular bike, so no swappy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/#findComment-1847485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubernator Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 7) Can both bikers on the attack bike change their pistols to flamers? From the C:SM it says nothing about changing their pistols, only says that it can upgrade it's Heavy Bolter for a Multi Melta. It does however mention options for pistols on normal bikes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/#findComment-1847512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoopxi Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 #6 The purpose of having a pistol stock would be for the sarge. Cannot recall if its the same as the DA bike sarge but if so they can get a power weapon and still keep the pistol for the extra attack. Anyone with their codex handy able to confirm if the C:SM biker sarge has to switch his pistol for a PW or PF? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/#findComment-1847571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sasha Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 C;SM says biker Serg can replace pistol with toys. Also says 0-2 lads can replace their BPs with specials; unclear bit is, are the 2 lads on the attack bike classed as bikers for the afore-mentioned rule? If not, do you want to go to a Hell's Angels bar and tell the lads ontrikes that they're not REAL bikers? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/#findComment-1847601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Take a look at the "Space Marine Bike Squad" and "Attack Bike Squad" unit composition. An Attack Bike Squad consists of 1-3 Attack Bikes. A Space Marine Bike Squad consists of 1 Biker Sergeant and 2 Space Marine Bikers and can have 5 additional Bikers. The squad can also have 1 Attack bike. It does seem like an "Attack Bike" is allways refered to as such, and not as a "biker". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/#findComment-1847652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bystrom Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 What Legatus said; and to further clarify, there's a difference between a Biker Sergeant and a Biker, which means the sergeant can't take special weapons either. As for 4-5, there have been some arguments regarding whether its meant to allow this, as the Assault Squad Sergeant can take two pairs of lightning claws, but I think most agree that the answer would be Yes to those two (it does say and/or and there are no restrictions to taking two of the same weapon). As for the bolt pistol, the only reason I can think of them being useful is if you're firing against a squad you don't want to kill too much (them retreating/dying instead of taking an assault and thus allowing your bikes to avoid getting shot at), but that's still a stretch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/#findComment-1847974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balkhan Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 #5 = Yes? I thought you could only equip 1 two-handed weapon? Or does this only apply to CC weapons? (And where did I read that a boltgun was two-handed????). :) Balkhan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/#findComment-1848262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Get out of 4th edition! :lol: There is no more 1-handed or 2-handed, or even limitations. Take a look at honor guard and be amazed by their carrying capacity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/#findComment-1848403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maligoare Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 There are still one and two handed weapons (just look at the Relic Blade, or the humble bolter). It is simply the restrictions which have disappeared, as they are no longer necessary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/#findComment-1848421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DestroyerHive Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 The relic blade doesn't say it's 2 handed - it just says it can't be used in conjunction with another CC weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157860-tactical-squad-clarification-please/#findComment-1850593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.