Pig Of Sparta Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Salutations brothers, after a short abscence I have returned! ( I got a 360 just after christmas so I've been a little preoccupied :P) I was having a nosey around yesterday and came across a tutorial for giving terminator armoured mini's tabards so I thought I'd give it a go. This is what I've got so far: http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/a-5.jpg The GS blending of the tabard on the chest isn't perfect, but hopefully when it's got some paint on will look ok. I'm currently trying to work out what legs look best with the tabard, so I'll stick a photo up with some legs attached once the GS has cured a little. I'm planning on using a 'crusader' style helmet for a distinct Knightly feel, (again stolen from the tut) queue some cutting and filing... I'll hopefully have a photo of the helm up tomorrow. In the mean time any and all c&c is welcome, although I realis at this stage, there's very little to comment on or criticise :( James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 One thing I have learned from trying out Greenstuff is that it will NOT look better once you paint it. You should probably retry and make it smoother with a modelling tool or whatever you have on hand. (I use the back of a tea spoon Oo). Also, don't forget to let it dry for a while, don't mix it and throw it on right away. And there are now two or three Tuts for making Tabardtermies in the Tutorial section and the Librarium Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1850692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 It doesnt look very weird(the GS) and the tabard with terminators is a very cool idea tbh. I whould like to see the result :D . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1850712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 Thanks for the comments guys. @cathar the great: I went back after I took the first photo this morning and smoothed it a little, but what I meant about it looking better once painted was that there'd be no obvious trasition from plastic to GS and back again. I find it quite hard sometimes to judge blending because of the two distinct colours of plastic and GS. @captain mick: thanks mate, unfortunately, progress is going to be real slow now until I can get hold of the arms I want to put on this guy, I'm thinking a thanuder hammer and storm shield would add to the crusading knight effect I'm aiming for, although at this stage, I thinking that he won't be painted as a Black Templar. Here's a couple of new pics of him with a helm and legs: Helm one: http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/b-5.jpg Helm two: http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/c-5.jpg I'm veering towards the first one just now, I think it looks a little better than the second, but I do need to make a neck seal for that head so it sits a little higher. C&C is always welcome, as are suggestions :P oh and if anyone has a thunder hammer and storm shield they're not using, pm me as I'm willing to trade for them :) James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1850783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Looks really cool, good job :P. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1850807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Really nice, did that thing for my own Black Templars. :) Don't think power armour heads look good on Terminators, I'd say go for regular Terminator heads or a bare head. That's just my opinion though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1850920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathar the great Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'd also go with the first one. PA helmets can work on Termies, but smaller ones always look better. You could also use this method for your helmets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1850970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 You could also use this method for your helmets. I tried that with a spare terminator helm and mine didn't quite come out right, I'm gonna have a hunt around and see if I've got another one, but I'm thinking of sticking with the first helmet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1851061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 For your greenstuff problem, and the colors. Try blending the GS to go over the plastic, it should be thin enough for you to see the plastic through it. And with waiting it dry, as Cathar said. Its not a necessity. I don't do it, and I get some of the smoothest GS you might see. You just have to use the right tools. I would try color shapers, I want to. Using your finger, and water or Vasaline, then just rubbing for a while, will give you a nice smoothness. Those look good! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1851497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 Cheers Shorts. I'm still reasonably new to sculpting with GS and have found that the best thing to do is 'just go for it' it seems to work for me, but I've still got a lot to learn about sculpting, so thanks for sharing those tips with me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1851946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 at first it looked a bit meh. but after adding legs and one of my favorite helmets it became cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1851949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 Thanks Sons, hopefully it'll still look good when it has arms too ( whenever that might be...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1851951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ompfris Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I liked helmet 1! and then I pictured him holding his Thunderhammer and StormShield and I thought helmet 2 would look better. helmet 1 would look awesome with heavy flamer..... nice work btw Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1852026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 Heavy flamer? hmmm... possibly not a good idea with all that fabric billowing around; Terminator Sarge: brother you're on fire... Flame Trooper: I know brother sergeant, I'm gratified by your praise... Terminator Sarge: No, really brother, can you not see the cleansing flames upon your chest? Flame Trooper: Ah...I..um...er... I wondered why it was so warm in here... a little help brothers? Although saying that, walking towards your enemies wreathed in flames and smoke, then dousing them with swathes of burning promethium would put the fear of the emperor into them, it could be a valid tactic :) Back on topic now, I think what I might do is put a neck seal on the first helmet, get some arms on him, and see what looks best, both for me and folks on here ^_^. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1852091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Heavy flamer? hmmm... possibly not a good idea with all that fabric billowing around;Terminator Sarge: brother you're on fire... Flame Trooper: I know brother sergeant, I'm gratified by your praise... Terminator Sarge: No, really brother, can you not see the cleansing flames upon your chest? Flame Trooper: Ah...I..um...er... I wondered why it was so warm in here... a little help brothers? Although saying that, walking towards your enemies wreathed in flames and smoke, then dousing them with swathes of burning promethium would put the fear of the emperor into them, it could be a valid tactic :P Back on topic now, I think what I might do is put a neck seal on the first helmet, get some arms on him, and see what looks best, both for me and folks on here :P. Astartes power armour wouldn't take damage from burning cloth. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1852167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 I know it probably wouldn't do any damage, but if he wasn't wearing a helmet, or if some of the promethium got on there, it would probably do some kind of damage if not doused or put out quickly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1852356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ompfris Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Hey... you got the head on? you got arms on? everything going okay? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1856348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 Sorry for the lack of posting. I've finalised the pose, although the arms are still separate for now for ease of painting, and I've managed to come up with another altenative head, photos are coming I promise :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1856485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 Ok, first I have to apologise for the double post. Having been back through my bits box I now have more than one alternative head option, but only a couple would look really good I think, so I could use a few opinions to help me out :D option 1, pre-heresy (Typhus's) style helmet: http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/d-4.jpg option 2, MkIII Iron Armour style helmet: http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/e-4.jpg option 3, shaved down contemporary Terminator helmet: http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/f-4.jpg option 4, shouting bare head: http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/g-3.jpg the last one would have to be pinched off this mini because I can't seem to find it on any bits shop websites, which is leading me to think that it's not available any more (I think its from a command squad sprue, but I'm not sure) I'm liking the idea of a bare, shouting head more and more though because I think it fits the pose better and (I think) would look like he's giving a speech, prior to charging off into battle. Let me know, as usual, what you think, any c&c is welcome James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1856608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulson games Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I really like the first pic, that pre-heresy helmet is awesome and it gives a techno knight-like look with the tabard. For the screaming head I think those are available on the terminator sprue, a lot of thw various heads you can find on ebay or battlewagon bits (now part of thewarstore.com) With the conversion work you've put in I think maybe the storm sheild could use some custom work possibly purity seals or even replace the sheilds icon with a chapter logo. It's a good model so far and the little touches will add that extra element that makes it stand out on the table. These are an example of the sheilds I converted, they are templars ones but since most chapters have icon bits you can do it with most any chapter without needing to greenstuff. The new drop pods also have a lot of chapter icons on their sprue that would fit on the sheilds. http://www.paulsongames.instantecom.net/i/warhammer/P1180452.JPG Also forge world makes awesome sheilds for the templars, they aren't super cheap but they look amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1856619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 Thanks paulson, I thought about maybe extending the storm shield down a bit, making it look more like Lysander's or the Chapter Master mini's one. If I did that I could file of the detailing on the front and customise it, or extend it down to both cover the join and add some detail to the rest of the shield. As for purity seals, don't worry, I'm fairly certain he will be awarded some before he's finished. The more I look at the photo's I just took the more I like the first one, but then I still like the bare head too, decisions, decisions! Thanks for posting those pics, and reminding me about the drop pod sprue, I've a couple sitting upstairs just now.... all I have to do is decide on a chapter/legion now. Ah, no... more decisions ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1856631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulson games Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 You can also pick up sergeant sheilds from some of the bits services which won't require work to extend. I picked up a couple on ebay for $2 each, which isn't bad considering they come 1 per box of terminators. If you are paitient and have a week or so to hunt they shouldn't be hard to pick up cheaply. I used the larger sergeant sheild for this guy marine champion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1856635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Ooh I love that typhus style helmet, where is it from? The shouting head from the 3rd edition Tactical Squad set would also look god and fits the pose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1856650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Morkar- Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I like at most the pre-heresy helmet. It gives him a different and original looking IMHO. Good work you're doing ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1856651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyng72 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 option 1, pre-heresy (Typhus's) style helmet:http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/pigofsparta/d-4.jpg I think this one looks the best, to get a visualization of the bare head you would have to place it on the termi but the model that it is on now looks too good to scoop it from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158120-tabarded-terminator/#findComment-1856727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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