newach Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I'll get right to the point, 1. How many of you use the bases that come in the box 2. I have a squad of 5, so how many grenade launchers should I use, I was think 3 :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 1. I do. Those are the rules. 2. I agree. use 3 or none. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Im not sure what bases they come with as i tend not to buy 'new' models..however i use standard cavalry bases on all my bikes. secondly in a unit of 5 or more take 3 (max out), these are great weapons to have, also its always worth taking the cluster mines... GC08 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
newach Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 1. I do. Those are the rules. 2. I agree. use 3 or none. What do you mean it is the rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan_smith Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 1. I do. Those are the rules. 2. I agree. use 3 or none. What do you mean it is the rules What he means is that rulewise if a model comes with a base it must be mounted on a base of at least that size(it may be bigger). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 No, it may not be bigger. Model must be mounted on the bases they come with. Any change requires opponents consent. Those are the rules. Having said that, most people aren't too strict about it in my experience. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
airbender Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 No, it may not be bigger. Model must be mounted on the bases they come with. Any change requires opponents consent. Those are the rules. Having said that, most people aren't too strict about it in my experience. you are wrong, they must be at least the size, can be bigger without any consent. edit: cut the flaming Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 1. I do. Those are the rules. 2. I agree. use 3 or none. What do you mean it is the rules What he means is that rulewise if a model comes with a base it must be mounted on a base of at least that size(it may be bigger). P.3 BBB states that models should be mounted on the bases they come with, any other bases you will need youyr opponents permission to use (even larger ones, sorry it was 4th ed when you didn't need to ask for that). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Airbender Rulebook, page 3, Bases Citadel miniatures are normally supplied with a plastic base. If so, they must be glued onto their base before they can be used in the game. Some player like to mount their models on impressive scenic bases. As mounting your models on different-sized might affect the way they interact with the rules, make sure before the game that your opponent does not mind this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Calm down, gentlemen. Arguing is fine but this kind of exchanges are very unpleasent.. A bit more of goodwill is requireds when people exchange ideas trhough the internet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Sorry, Lucifer. Will promptly edit my post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
airbender Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 1. I do. Those are the rules. 2. I agree. use 3 or none. What do you mean it is the rules What he means is that rulewise if a model comes with a base it must be mounted on a base of at least that size(it may be bigger). P.3 BBB states that models should be mounted on the bases they come with, any other bases you will need youyr opponents permission to use (even larger ones, sorry it was 4th ed when you didn't need to ask for that). not true, what you got there isnt RAW nor RAI. http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg125/airbenderxiao/eefe5114.jpg RAW:it says it must have a base, regardless whether the base it come with, and "impressive scenic bases" needs oks. RAI: smaller base not okay because of reachings, high bases are vauge because of true line of sight. and? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
airbender Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 trying to be RAW on this point would really lead to silly points such as why multiple "Citadel miniatures" has to go on "a plastic base" also the problem with older termie and many other model. let us just face it, the point of this rule is that some one wouldnot have snipers on towers and co.; not bigger bases. edit: misspelling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 "Different-sized bases" is pretty clear. Is a bigger base "different-sized" than the original? Yes, it is. Does it then required your opponents consent? Yes, it does. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 trying to be RAW on this point would really lead to silly points such as why multiple "Citadel miniatures" has to go on "a plastic base"also with older termie and many other model. That would be a valid point if the text said; "Citadel miniatures has to go on a single plastic base." But it doesn't. You are really reaching here. Also your old metal Terminators was supplied with a plastic base. This is the base you should use. No problems there. The rules are perfectly clear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
airbender Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 trying to be RAW on this point would really lead to silly points such as why multiple "Citadel miniatures" has to go on "a plastic base"also with older termie and many other model. That would be a valid point if the text said; "Citadel miniatures has to go on a single plastic base." But it doesn't. You are really reaching here. Also your old metal Terminators was supplied with a plastic base. This is the base you should use. No problems there. The rules are perfectly clear. I apologize for the flaming. so this means all of us have to unbase the double based charcaters, also old termies on the new bases......this seriously sucks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Yes, characters can be a problem. No, old terminators are not a problem. As long as they are mounted on the bases their came with. My 40+ metal Deathwing Terminators came with 25mm bases and they are mounted on those. Do I have to change all their bases to 40mm? No, because they are mounted on the bases they came with. Having said that, most people don't make too much of a problem out of it in my experience. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 trying to be RAW on this point would really lead to silly points such as why multiple "Citadel miniatures" has to go on "a plastic base"also with older termie and many other model. That would be a valid point if the text said; "Citadel miniatures has to go on a single plastic base." But it doesn't. You are really reaching here. Also your old metal Terminators was supplied with a plastic base. This is the base you should use. No problems there. The rules are perfectly clear. I apologize for the flaming. so this means all of us have to unbase the double based charcaters, also old termies on the new bases......this seriously sucks. Unfortunately so... thats one of the reasons why I stopped playing Death Wing in 5th edition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Mal, please read the post before yours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158505-scout-bikes/#findComment-1856305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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