Sisters views on Tau

[Inq. Enmerich Von Vattle]

Well I have been looking everywere on the net, and I have found nothing. I'm building a campaing and will like to ally the Tau to the imperial forces against Chaos, Nids and Orcs.

 

Believe it or not we lack marines in our playgroup

 

What is the Sisters view on the Tau? So I can make sense of it all?

[boreas]

My guess is Sisters would have a very negative view of Tau. First reason is their being Xenos. That, in itself, is heresy. Second, they are an upstart race. Eldars are a dying breed and Orcs a "natural phenomenon" to be controlled and destroyed. Tau, however, are methodically improving their technology and gaining ground. Finally, Tau are morally more dangerous as they seek not to destroy the Human race, but to incorporate it into the "Greater Good". This means that humans might be tempted away from the Emperor's grace, which wouldn't happen with other Xenos races.

 

They are considered a more civilized race, though, and SoB might ally with them if faced with Chaos, Nids, Orcs or such other "more immediate" menace.

 

But then, that's just my opinion!

 

Phil

[Toogeloo]

The enemy of my enemy... is the only reason Sisters would ally with anything outside of the Imperium and probably only Tau and Eldar, and even then, they are likely to turn on the Tau or Eldar as the battle rages on, more than likely using the Xenos to lead the vanguard and then take them out after their success and while weakened, or more probably before the fight even starts due to their burning intolerance of anything not in love with the Emperor of mankind.

[Reinholt]

All Xenos are heretics and an offense in the eyes of the Emperor that must be purged.

 

Your talk of an alliance with such filth is, itself, heresy, and leaves me deeply concerned that you lack faith...

 

Heretics are to be burned and purged. Nothing good can come of working with them.

 

Also, their helmets look funny.

[boreas]

Also, their helmets look funny.

 

Have you ever looked at their feet?

 

Phil

[Bucky]

Also, their helmets look funny.

 

Have you ever looked at their feet?

 

Phil

 

 

LMAO!

[Grand Master Tyrak]

Toogeloo Posted Today, 06:58 PM

The enemy of my enemy... is the only reason Sisters would ally with anything outside of the Imperium and probably only Tau and Eldar, and even then, they are likely to turn on the Tau or Eldar as the battle rages on, more than likely using the Xenos to lead the vanguard and then take them out after their success and while weakened, or more probably before the fight even starts due to their burning intolerance of anything not in love with the Emperor of mankind.

 

I'm sure they would. However, I can't help thinking that even the slowest Farseer, Autarch, Ethereal or Fire Caste Commander will see that one coming. ;)

[Captain Malachi]

You'd be amazed how slow some tau can be, even the eldar can be pretty dense sometimes. (note: I'm not picking on the xenos races, this is all justified in the fluff)

 

I don't think the sisters would be happy with an "alliance", but they might be ok with letting the tau and orks/nids/chaos fight it out and then finish off the survivors.

[Melissia]

Indeed, why sacrifice the faithful when the enemy will kill eachother instead? Just mop up any survivors and voila.

[Tauren]

This has been mentioned before, but there is documented cases of working with the tau against other xenos, specifically a genestealer cult. That said, most of the tau died horribly... the inquisitor and commissar got out safely.

[Mal]

I expect the sisters wouldn't so much as work with the Tau/Eldar as let them go about their business while they deal with the more immediate threat, then deal with the filthy xenos.

[Inquisitor Fox]

I actually have a fine point to add to this discussion...

 

Are the Sisters in question under the direct command of a Sister (Cannoness/Palantine) and/or Priest of the Ecclesiarchy, or are they under the command of an Inquisitor?

 

See... if they're currently working in their primary role of the armed forces of the Ecclesiarchy, then kill and burn the heretics til the last breath :) Of course, it is very prudent to let the heretics and xenos kill each other first. This is an entirely different attitude than if they are wearing their second hat...

 

Wearing the hat of the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Hereticus, they are under the direct command of an Inquisitor, who has the ability to order ANY force of the Imperium (Even Space Marines, though that becomes a political issue and how you phrase things) to do whatever mission is required. The Inquisitor can decide that an alliance is prudent, and the terms of said temporary alliance. Now, the Inquisitor may come under fire later in their own career for past actions and choices, but if you need any Imperial army to ally with anything, the Inquisition is the best reason. The Apocalypse book even states this in the section with the allies chart... that any army lead by an Inquisitor uses the Inquisition allies section, not the Space Marines/Imperial Guard/etc. The Inquisition can ally with the Xenos, Space Marines can't (as an example).

 

In a joint Imperial army with some Xenos campaign, I would stat up a NPC Inquisitor Lord as a campaign major personality. This person is in charge of all the Imperial Activities, and made a command decision to temporarily work with the Xenos against various Chaos forces. Past examples of this were also all through the Lucky 13's Summer Campaign.. where we saw things like a Space Marine Librarian working (temporarily) with an Eldar Farseer. It's all about the Inquisition telling people to do things (or requesting very nicely... :)).

[Mal]

It's all about the Inquisition telling people to do things (or requesting very nicely... ^_^).

 

Requesting very nicely then rapidly ducking as half a dozen bolt shells impact in the wall where his head used to be....

[Inquisitor Fox]

Requesting very nicely then rapidly ducking as half a dozen bolt shells impact in the wall where his head used to be....

It's possible, but so is the Exterminatus declared on a Chapter's home world... we're the Inquisition, no one said we had to play nice ^_^

 

These are the reasons that the Chapter Militants exist, and are used much more frequently than Space Marine contacts. Little to no political cost of using the forces! The Inquisition has authority over all forces in the Imperium, while the Space Marines have been granted autonomy over all Imperium political bodies... a natural conflict of interest. Most alliances with Space Marines and the like tend to be situational... an Inquisitor is on a planet and discovers something they're not currently equipped to handle, even with their own household forces, so they send out a call for aid, and take whatever shows up. The example in the Apocalypse hardbound is a good example of this, at the beginning of the "Forces of the Imperium" section detailing the Imperial Navy and the Titans.

 

I merely point out the possible influence an Inquisitor has as a great story hook for an ad hoc alliance of various forces going after the "Common" enemies; Chaos, Tyrannids, Necrons, etc. As Inquisitors are all individuals with their own preferences and goals, motives and secret projects, it allows for a vast amount of gaming fluff potential.

[Brother Delias]

On a slight note... the imperium and the Tau Empire are(as current) under a temporary ceasefire treaty since the damocles gulf crusade(and it's abysmal failure). While slight skirmishes may be fought on the borders of the two empires, The large amount of forces on both sides are redirected to their own more immidiate threats.

 

However...

 

The Eldar have known ties with the ordo malleus(at least to the ordo itself) in that certain Inquisitors have been allowed access to the Black Library, which... any other race other than Eldar are quite usually never seen again due to the Black Libraries guardians. Certain Space marine captains have been able to walk freely upon sept worlds(without taking a rail spike to the chest) in the Tau effort to make peace with the Imperium and to better subsume them into the Tau Empire.

 

For the backstory of the campaign, since you have a lack of space marine players(wish I was where you are!!) it would be a more prudent action of having the Eldar/Inquisitor ties pull in the Tau to the Eldar schemes. The Eldar see the Tau as the successors of the galaxy, so this would work well.

[Inq. Enmerich Von Vattle]

Thanks Guys, This really helps...now to write backbone story and the different possible scenarios and endings to the campiang. :thanks:

 

Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen wrote:

 

"I merely point out the possible influence an Inquisitor has as a great story hook for an ad hoc alliance of various forces going after the "Common" enemies; Chaos, Tyrannids, Necrons, etc. As Inquisitors are all individuals with their own preferences and goals, motives and secret projects, it allows for a vast amount of gaming fluff potential.

 

This is exactly what I'm going to do :)

[boreas]

Thanks Guys, This really helps...now to write backbone story and the different possible scenarios and endings to the campiang. :thanks:

 

Inquisitor NicolePyykkonen wrote:

 

"I merely point out the possible influence an Inquisitor has as a great story hook for an ad hoc alliance of various forces going after the "Common" enemies; Chaos, Tyrannids, Necrons, etc. As Inquisitors are all individuals with their own preferences and goals, motives and secret projects, it allows for a vast amount of gaming fluff potential.

 

This is exactly what I'm going to do :)

 

Let us know how that campaign goes! Always interesting to hear!

 

Phil

[Inq. Enmerich Von Vattle]

Will do !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Melissia]

Just remember that, though they are zealous and quite sure in their xenophobic views, the SIsters aer not led by idiots. If they see two enemeis fighting eachother, I see no reason why the Sisters would not pull back and let them kill eachother, then mop up the remains. Or if there is a greater threat, and the xeno army backs off and doesn't engage, they would deal with the bigger threat before they tried to kill the xenos.

 

Of course, there are exceptions to this-- the Sisters would not accept a cease-fire with the forces of Chaos even in the most dire of times.

[Captain Malachi]

Of course, there are exceptions to this-- the Sisters would not accept a cease-fire with the forces of Chaos even in the most dire of times.

Not that I can imagine any self respecting chaos marine to offer a ceasefire in the first place, but that's true, sisters will always kill chaos wherever it's found.

[ArmouredWing]

If I remember correctly there is an 'allies' chart in the back of the Apoc rule book and it does state that an 'uneasy' alliance can indeed be struck between the forces of the inquisition and Tau.

[Artein]

Maybe this one will help, not much, but at least something more or less official

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=EIoPP25XOvc&...re=channel_page

[GoneFishing]

I Suppose that the mighty, powerful and glorious Tau Empire might generously consent to allow the barbarian inquisition to seek their aid during a time of crisis. What Tau Commander would not take the opportunity to shepherd a less advanced. inferior race, still clinging to an outdated belief system that ascribes some sort of "Divinity" to a decomposing corpse sat on a idolaters throne, towards the harmony and peace that can only be found by total surrender to the Greater Good and acceptance of ones true role in life as servants of the preminent Etherals.

 

Afterall, it would give the poor deluded Sisters a chance to experience true enlightenment, and appreciate a truely civilised and harmonius culture outside the restrictive opression and censorship of imperial rule, and may make them rethink there blind obdience to there outdated and primitive belief system.

 

I even suspect that Sisters could become decent troops.....If lead by Tau Officers of course. After a while once you have truely come to appreciate the superiority and preminence of the Ethereal Caste we may even consent to replacing some of your basic weaponry with superior Tau technology, and consent to letting you join the armies of the greater good as a "Gues'va" Sisterhood, spreading the true message of the Greater Good throughout your benighted and stagnant empire. Just think of the glory you could achieve laying your lives on the line as loyal citizens of the Tau Empire.

 

Rejoice!

 

:lol:

[Melissia]

Why, I'm certain the Sisters would accept the Tau leadership. THeir bones would work perfectly fine as decorations in our Simaculrum Imperialis. Don't worry, this will hurt. A lot.

[Commander Remiel]

I seem to remember some fluff about a Space Marine force (Ultramarines led Calgar??) fighting against the Tau for possession of an Imperial planet (can't find the source though). During the fighting, the necrons appeared and started attacking both sides.

 

The marines and Tau formed a temporarly alliance, defeating the necrons, for the moment.

 

Calgar (?) then ordered the Exterminatus but allowed the Tau to evacuate BEFORE implementing.

 

So, if the inquisition has not come after the marines for allowing the Tau to evacuate before the exterminatus, then I think SoBs allying (short-term) with the Tau is possible. This is all predicated by my memory being reasonable accurate. I could be blowing wind out my butt.

 

 

Also, when in doubt, check the Ally Matrix in the Apocalypse Rulebook, p 198. It will give you a good idea on who SoBs would ally with and to what degree.

 

BTW, the Apocalypse reference I gave indicates Inquisition forces would ally with Tau but "the two armies would distrust one another, would only fight together againsta common and hated foe, or they are simply both attacking at the same place and same time. You should think of a reason why they are allied."

 

That said, in short YES, they would but only for very good reason. Unless the Inquisitor says otherwise.