Melissia Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Yep. The Sisters (I really dont' care about the Inquisition personally, so I'll let others speak of that) would form a temporary, informal cease-fire to fight off Chaos or a foe greater than the one they're currently fighting (unless it's Chaos). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1863861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Yep. The Sisters (I really dont' care about the Inquisition personally, so I'll let others speak of that) would form a temporary, informal cease-fire to fight off Chaos or a foe greater than the one they're currently fighting (unless it's Chaos). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1863862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boreas Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Yep. The Sisters (I really dont' care about the Inquisition personally, so I'll let others speak of that) would form a temporary, informal cease-fire to fight off Chaos or a foe greater than the one they're currently fighting (unless it's Chaos). Unless, of course, they're corrupted sisters... :woot: Sorry, couldn't resist. I really guess (back on topic) it depends on the SoB commander. Some canonesses could be raging zealots preferring to martyr themselves by attacking right and left, both opponents at the same time. Others might be cunning politicians, "allying" themselves with Tau for a while. Finally, some others might try to stay out of the conflict long enough to see a winning side, pounce on it then mop up the losing side... Phil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1864068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Commander Remiel Posted Today, 07:08 AM I seem to remember some fluff about a Space Marine force (Ultramarines led Calgar??) fighting against the Tau for possession of an Imperial planet (can't find the source though). During the fighting, the necrons appeared and started attacking both sides. The marines and Tau formed a temporarly alliance, defeating the necrons, for the moment. Calgar (?) then ordered the Exterminatus but allowed the Tau to evacuate BEFORE implementing. So, if the inquisition has not come after the marines for allowing the Tau to evacuate before the exterminatus, then I think SoBs allying (short-term) with the Tau is possible. The story is correct (5th ed SM Codex), but I disagree with your assessment. The Inquisition first has to get past a 10,000 year honour record of service to the Imperium before they can prosecute the Ultramarines, which is next to impossible for all except the most serious charges (like the Ultramarines have actually attacked Terra or something, by which time it's a bit obvious). It's what makes First Founding and some Second Founding Chapters all but immune to Inquisitorial scrutiny. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1864088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Delias Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 that... and picking on little blue men is just rude... .... Then there is their firepower that beats out anything any other race has.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1864165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 The Sisters have no lack of firepower, so to speak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1864446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Really, more than anyone else in the Imperium, Inquisitors are the ones that will look at a situation and ask themselves the question "is it worth the effort?" Is a charge of heresy really necessary for this situation? Has it gone far enough that it warrents an investigation, or is it a minor incident with no major precedent or implications? Inquisitors are Inquisitors because they have brains and actively employ them, even the ones that blindly follow dogma. They tend to be less religious and less zealot by nature, their mind is an active questioning mind. Probably the reason I enjoy playing one so much... :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1864517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Remiel Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 Really, more than anyone else in the Imperium, Inquisitors are the ones that will look at a situation and ask themselves the question "is it worth the effort?" Or: 1) have they pissed off me or someone I know (ie. like a drinking buddy/Inquisitor)? 2) how much trouble will I get into for doing this? (ie. usually with other Inquisitors) 3) has the army in question been a help or a hindrance to the inquisition? (ie. help - Exorcists; hindrance - Celestial Lions; etc) Is a charge of heresy really necessary for this situation? Has it gone far enough that it warrents an investigation, or is it a minor incident with no major precedent or implications? Inquisitors are Inquisitors because they have brains and actively employ them, even the ones that blindly follow dogma. They tend to be less religious and less zealot by nature, their mind is an active questioning mind. Not many people can argue with a call made by an Inquisitor. Unless it another Inquisitor (usually with more power) or a whole bunch of Inquisitors and you are declared Diabolus (I believe that is the term.) Probably the reason I enjoy playing one so much... :D Just remember power corrupts and absolute power corrupts abolutely. Mwahahahahahaha!!!!! Unless you are the Inquisition. Then it is either necessary evil or you are a Radical. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1864863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inq. Enmerich Von Vattle Posted January 31, 2009 Author Share Posted January 31, 2009 Yep. The Sisters (I really dont' care about the Inquisition personally, so I'll let others speak of that) would form a temporary, informal cease-fire to fight off Chaos or a foe greater than the one they're currently fighting (unless it's Chaos). Unless, of course, they're corrupted sisters... ;) Sorry, couldn't resist. I really guess (back on topic) it depends on the SoB commander. Some canonesses could be raging zealots preferring to martyr themselves by attacking right and left, both opponents at the same time. Others might be cunning politicians, "allying" themselves with Tau for a while. Finally, some others might try to stay out of the conflict long enough to see a winning side, pounce on it then mop up the losing side... Phil The Canoness I'm developing for the campaing is far from a raging zealot. One of the things I hate about my playgroup views on sisters is that they consider them mindless automatons, that you point to target to burn to ashes ( Lets not forget the usual gender discriminatory remark). For me, the cool part of writting a campaing is putting the emotional, human (or Xeno's ) aspect to it. For example my Canoness frame of mind is going to be modeled after Carl Von Clausewitz, she is going to be practical from head to toe and she will doubt herself and her decicions, and depending on the results of the battles even her own faith. I'm still reading fiction(for me a very important requisite before starting writting), though I have been running LARPS (Vampire the Masquerade) and Storytell for more than 10 years, I'm still roughly new to 40k. Thats why all of your views are deeply apreciated, again thanks! Question: I'm thinking of a little bit of LARP before the players engage in battle...are there any rules I could use as basis? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1865459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toogeloo Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 The Canoness I'm developing for the campaing is far from a raging zealot. One of the things I hate about my playgroup views on sisters is that they consider them mindless automatons, that you point to target to burn to ashes ( Lets not forget the usual gender discriminatory remark). For me, the cool part of writting a campaing is putting the emotional, human (or Xeno's ) aspect to it. For example my Canoness frame of mind is going to be modeled after Carl Von Clausewitz, she is going to be practical from head to toe and she will doubt herself and her decicions, and depending on the results of the battles even her own faith. The true enemy in war is war itself, eh? Where's your faith lol? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1866018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Canoness Emelia Stone is both a religious zealot and a brilliant commander. She just has different views on the nature of sacrifice. Why sacrifice a Sister when you can instead killl a Xeno or Heretic? When you can prevent losses and still achieve victory, you have not wasted the lives of the faithful-- why should we give the heretic the honor of killing any more of the faithful than it truelly takes to take them down? Thus, she requires all the canonesses and palatines of her order to study various books on tactics and strategy, such as the Codex Astartes amongst many other books, which are proven to be reliable and faithful sources of information, usually written by those who were posthumously declared saints even. Knowledge is power, and so long as one keeps the right knowledge and pushes away the bad, it will not corrupt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1867249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Delias Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 On the other hand, the wise Shas'O will also not be completely willing to send in his precious few recources to be needlessly slaughtered by a common enemy. There are a few things that you must remember on this. 1: Like the rest of the imperium, Sisters are steeped in 10,000 years of dogma, Tau are not. 2: Sisters have the neccisary resources to fight in attritional warfare, Tau do not. 3: Unlike near on all other races of the warhammer galaxy, Tau find retreat a sound tactical resolution. For them it is better to live to fight another day then to die in a wasted manner. There is a reason why they have superior firepower to the exclusion of all else, to kill their enemy without taking needless injury. 4: Tau will only fight for the betterment of the greater good, as such, unless it IS in the interests of the greater good, they would first see to it that their enemies fight amongst eachother, attacking from afar as they saw fit. In the end, it is more probable that they would only serve to ally with eachother in only the most dire of circumstances, as interests alone stand them at odds with eachother from the get-go. EDIT: @ Melissia: There is no such thing as Bad Knowledge, only Bad intent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1869849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inq. Enmerich Von Vattle Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 On the other hand, the wise Shas'O will also not be completely willing to send in his precious few recources to be needlessly slaughtered by a common enemy. There are a few things that you must remember on this. 1: Like the rest of the imperium, Sisters are steeped in 10,000 years of dogma, Tau are not. 2: Sisters have the neccisary resources to fight in attritional warfare, Tau do not. 3: Unlike near on all other races of the warhammer galaxy, Tau find retreat a sound tactical resolution. For them it is better to live to fight another day then to die in a wasted manner. There is a reason why they have superior firepower to the exclusion of all else, to kill their enemy without taking needless injury. 4: Tau will only fight for the betterment of the greater good, as such, unless it IS in the interests of the greater good, they would first see to it that their enemies fight amongst eachother, attacking from afar as they saw fit. In the end, it is more probable that they would only serve to ally with eachother in only the most dire of circumstances, as interests alone stand them at odds with eachother from the get-go. Thanks I will take into consideration!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158609-sisters-views-on-tau/page/2/#findComment-1869910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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