Bjorn Darkwolf Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 so at first glance this spell seems to be lack luster in comparison to the other spells in the C:SM arsenal. but let me tell you it is heart breaking. i lost 20 termies and 5 Independent characters to a 1 squad of TH/SS termies with a Liberian. clearly knowing the effect null zone would have had on the fight i would have ignored that squad like the plague. however, i am working on methods of dealing with a unit like this. i think i have resorted to just mass small arms fire into them. and then charge the rest. anyone have any other thoughts or tricks to deal with this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158621-null-zonewtf/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Take a detachment of GK and use Psycannons? Thats what my mate is doing to take down some deamons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158621-null-zonewtf/#findComment-1857496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Of course psycannons only ignore the 3+ invulnerable, leaving them with a 2+ armor save. Might as well hit them with a heavy bolter and be done with it. How on earth did they do that to you though? Thunderhammers always strike last. This wasnt a case of failed invulnerable saves as much as it was a case of botched attacks I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158621-null-zonewtf/#findComment-1857569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Remember, this is only nasty vs units with an Invunerable save. 14 Blood Claws, a Pack Leader and a barebones WGPL out of a LRC will still ruin his day. Save your Termies for bashing up his firebase and things that won't do that to them... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158621-null-zonewtf/#findComment-1857684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. K. Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I also don't see how it was so effective... The Librarian can only cast it in his shooting phase so you still get your assault phase to get your regular inv. saves, And it doesn't negate the saves, you only have to re-roll them. I think it could have been just a lot of bad die rolling. G -edit- Also I'm not sure if a Lib can cast it if he is engaged in an assault already, because models in CC don't get to cast psy powers unless the power says they can; nor can they do anything in the shooting phase. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158621-null-zonewtf/#findComment-1857822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Darkwolf Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 he casts it in the shooting phase, and it lasts the rest of the turn. he was not in the unit that was in melee he was 24 inches away. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158621-null-zonewtf/#findComment-1858709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. K. Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Well he may have been doing it wrong because my SM dex claerly states that it is cast "at the start of the Librarian's Shooting phase" and lasts "for the remainder of the player turn" If he was using it in your shooting phase or having it last during your turn I'd advise a dreadsocking is in order :D This is why I always read the rules for myself, its easy for an opponent to glance over the things that don't help them, with no evil intended ofcourse. G Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158621-null-zonewtf/#findComment-1859341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I apologize ahead of time for this reply for I have had far to much ale with some of my wolf brothers here at the Fang along with my great company.. but you should have use a rending pony :P if all else fails, have your Wolf Lord throw a pitcher of our fine Fenrisian Ale at his Librarian when he's casting Null Zone to distract him which in turn angers our packs, ready for the charge! then again you can always use a vindicator. But I believe that G. A. K. is correct :( always read the rules or ask someone to clarify them for you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158621-null-zonewtf/#findComment-1859504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I apologize ahead of time for this reply for I have had far to much ale with some of my wolf brothers here at the Fang along with my great company.. but you should have use a rending pony :eek if all else fails, have your Wolf Lord throw a pitcher of our fine Fenrisian Ale at his Librarian when he's casting Null Zone to distract him which in turn angers our packs, ready for the charge! then again you can always use a vindicator. But I believe that G. A. K. is correct :P always read the rules or ask someone to clarify them for you. Not the Rending Pony! Anything but that! Rending Pony for those of you who don't know. Edit: Sorry Mav, didn't know that was a link in your post, thought it was just a bolding. Guess I should pay more attention. :whistling: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158621-null-zonewtf/#findComment-1860841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustermaker Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I apologize ahead of time for this reply for I have had far to much ale with some of my wolf brothers here at the Fang along with my great company.. but you should have use a rending pony :lol: if all else fails, have your Wolf Lord throw a pitcher of our fine Fenrisian Ale at his Librarian when he's casting Null Zone to distract him which in turn angers our packs, ready for the charge! then again you can always use a vindicator. But I believe that G. A. K. is correct ;) always read the rules or ask someone to clarify them for you. Not the Rending Pony! Anything but that! Rending Pony for those of you who don't know. ROFL!! Sorry that this is a little off topic, but that Rending Pony is AMAZING!!!! LOL! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158621-null-zonewtf/#findComment-1860883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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