Pasch Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Hi folks. I had a couple question about basing bikes. Is there an official ruling on what bases must be used with bikes and attack bikes? I have some older models on the square cav bases, along with some models on the newer oval bases. I'm assuming the proper thing to do here is to pull my bikes off their cav bases and get some more of the current oval ones. With attack bikes however... has there ever been an official base size for them? The kit I bought didn't come with a base or I would have used it. Getting a new base is simple enough, but what size for them is standard? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 The proper base size is the one that the model comes supplied with. Why do this keep popping up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/#findComment-1860111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Matteo Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 that didnt really answer his question. i believe the attack bikes base is the same size as the dreadnaughts. (at least thats the size i've seen them on) but i dont know the acutal size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/#findComment-1860164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silber Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Fact is that neither bikes nor attack bikes are supplied with bases, so technically they don't have to be on any base. The fact that there is a bike base pretty much sets the future standard - all bikes packaged in the future will have those bases. So while it is not (yet) mandatory to have them on the appropriate bike bases it's certainly not a bad idea. So this puts us in front of a problem - the attack bike. With all the common bikes on bases it looks kinda weird not to have it on one, and it's inconsistent, too. The only one that remotely fits it is the dreadnought (60 mm) base. It's a tight fit, but I don't think there's a real alternative.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/#findComment-1860257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsutter Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I like the 50mm square base for attack bikes and the 50x25mm bases for the regular bikes. Square bases makes moving the squad as a unit easier. Since there is nothing that comes with the bikes yet, it seems to work well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/#findComment-1860281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 There is nothing that is mandatory. There is no standard that has to be retroactivly applied to anything. There is only one rule. The models have to be glued to the bases they were supplied with. If your bikes came without bases, then you don't have to base them. Period. End of discussion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/#findComment-1860338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsutter Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I agree, they don't need a base. I like to put mine on a base only because I have the older metal and plastic attack bikes and it keeps the sidecar from breaking off on the bike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/#findComment-1860347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silber Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 There is nothing that is mandatory. There is no standard that has to be retroactivly applied to anything. There is only one rule. The models have to be glued to the bases they were supplied with. If your bikes came without bases, then you don't have to base them. Period. End of discussion. Very useful. Wow. :D It's not that easy though. Ever tried to walk into a tournament and tell people your metal Terminators came with small bases, so that's okay? Your Dreadnought wasn't on a base back in Rouge Trader days (or whenever that was) so it doesn't have to be today? Nobody's going to scoff at you because you're showing up with unbased or cavalry based bikes to a pickup game - same with the attack bike. Probably it's not a problem in a tournament, either. But I can understand the OP's desire to "get it right". I say bikebases for the bikes and a 60mm one for the attack bike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/#findComment-1860359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzkrieg861 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I wanted to have my attack bike gunner standing on the back of the bike, kinda shooting overtop of the rider. I didn't do it because I knew outside my gaming circle, as cool as it would look, I would get flak for how small the actual fig is. I have never seen one on a base, but I would imagine about the same size as a 'naught Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/#findComment-1860442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 There is nothing that is mandatory. There is no standard that has to be retroactivly applied to anything. There is only one rule. The models have to be glued to the bases they were supplied with. If your bikes came without bases, then you don't have to base them. Period. End of discussion. Very useful. Wow. :unsure: It's not that easy though. Ever tried to walk into a tournament and tell people your metal Terminators came with small bases, so that's okay? Your Dreadnought wasn't on a base back in Rouge Trader days (or whenever that was) so it doesn't have to be today? Nobody's going to scoff at you because you're showing up with unbased or cavalry based bikes to a pickup game - same with the attack bike. Probably it's not a problem in a tournament, either. But I can understand the OP's desire to "get it right". I say bikebases for the bikes and a 60mm one for the attack bike. Actually it is very usefull, as what I am para-phrasing is the rules. Ok,let's talk about tournaments. First of all, tournaments can make any houserules (tournamentrules?) they want. If they don't adress the issue of bases (ie. release a list of all the models/modeltypes in question and which bases they must use), they are stuck with the rules in the rulebook. Second, the OP didn't ask for tournament rules. He enquired about "official rules". Third, we can rarely give any specific answers about the rulings at tournaments other than; "Ask the tournament organizer". Your "suggestion" about using certain bases for certain models are not helpfull at all when we are discussing the official rules in the "Official Rules-forum". That is not the way to help the OP get it right at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/#findComment-1860471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Question has been answered. This thread is closed due to an unwarranted breakout of bickering – and this is to stop it going any further. I don't mind a 'proper' discussion – but not the attitude displayed here by some. Anyone got anything more they'd like to say on the issue of bases that answers the OPs question then PM me and I'll consider reopening. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158805-proper-base-size-for-bikes-and-attack-bikes/#findComment-1860619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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