Terminator Sisters

[madtroll]

I'm going to model up some female terminators to run in apoc.

 

The problem is, which already existing unit best represents them for the "counts as" rule?

 

I want to model them all holding eviscerators so I figure chain fists are a must. Heavy flamers would be a nice touch as well so it seems like vanilla space marine termies would be the way to go. Maybe I could model one with organ pipes on her back and call it a cyclone missile launcher?

 

but what about using chaos termies? everybody in the squad could be given a multimelta or multiflamer and chainfists.

 

Another thing I have thought of is that a str 3 sister with an eviscerator is str 6 (not 8 like a space marine w/ chain fist) so I could use Grey knight termies rules because they are str 6 and put an incinerator in the squad.

 

The only problem with that is they wouldn't get the 2d6 vs vehicles which an eviscerator would give them.

 

maybe there is some other unit from a codex I am unfamiliar with that would work.

 

The perfect stat line would be this:

 

bs 4

ws 4

s 3 / 6

t 3

w 1

i 4

a 2

sv 2/5+

 

every model would have a chain fist / eviscerator and there would be a but load of bolters / flamers / meltas in the squad.

 

watcha ya'll think?

[Captain Malachi]

Chaos termies seems the best fit to me, but since it's apoc, you could always make your own rules, afterall, that's what apoc's all about.

[madtroll]

the problem with that would be getting people to let me play with them :D

[number6]

the problem with that would be getting people to let me play with them :D

If you were to use the Chaos Space Marine Terminator entry, only with your adjusted statline, I bet nobody would refuse you. They are already the cheapest terminators in the game, why quibble that you'd be overspending a little bit on the points because you're giving them a lesser statline? It's Apoc after all. Heck, I bet if you offered to do this, most folks (well, me, anyway :D) would tell you, "You overspent. You want an extra 50-150 pts to play with on your Apoc list over there?"

[Captain Malachi]

As number6 said, I really doubt anyone would say "no" flat out, they might even help you to refine them.

[madtroll]

As number6 said, I really doubt anyone would say "no" flat out, they might even help you to refine them.

 

well since we are talking about refining them...

 

what would be an appropriate point cost if I used the stat line above, weapon options available to chaos termies, and making them a faithful unit?

[Warp Angel]

Use the Daemonhunter codex and look at the price of terminator armor for an inquisitor. Smack that on the cost of the sister you want to throw it on, and done. Keep the sister statline for the base unit, just like Marines do in the current codex (vets = terminator). Note that the terminator armor doesn't come with any weapons, so you'd keep what you already had, or buy the appropriate upgrade from the squad list. Yes, this may mean no PF/PW, but you can buy that out of your armory.

 

I'd have no problem with them being VERY expensive compared to other terminators, but that's because they provide the sisters with a capability that nothing in their army has. Namely good close combat, and invulnerable saves on non-characters.

 

Basic Chaos terminators don't bring a whole lot to Chaos by themselves, so their points cost is justified at being low. Space Marine's pay a lot more for their terminators, but that's because they bring something VERY special to their army that nothing else matches.

[Mosk]

I would make them totally new, don't use the termi rules. I would say use some of the chaos termi rules but give them heavy flamers/multi meltas, and then evicerators.in the other hand, make them faithful, and keep your statlines. I would even probably use them in regular non tourny fun games that are not apoc, and count them as heavy or elite, probably elite.

 

If you want to do the chaos termi way I would have them be the same amount of points and just say they are faithful, you may want to make them a little more points if you want too, or make them get two faith points cause they must be very faithful to be honored to use the termi armor you know? If you make them worth two faith points then you would have to jack up the point value as that would be a pretty powerful squad, just think, five sister termis with five heavy flamers, mounted in rhino, or three termis in an immolator, or ten termis in a landraider (I can't remeber how many termis can fit in LR) just think of that type of squad, coming in in a vehicle disembarking, shooting off a diving guidance flame thrower shtuff, then assaulting with chain fists, or evicerator (possibly have evicerators for +25 points for each model maybe twenty or fifteen points who knows what you would do for that)

 

I think I am for sure going to make some lady termis for my self maybe even just for fun, this could be the assault units that a pure sisters of battle army needs.

 

I think the cyclone stuff Is pushing it but hey I think you should be using it if you like it.

 

Either way I think you should use this is any game type that is being played for fun. I don't think. You should just use it in apoc, at my club we regularly bring in baneblades or titans in regular games. Makes it that much more fun. Apoc is just too little of rules, force orginization chart is great.

 

No matter what points you end up doing, it will be awesome, get some WIPs up so we can see.

[madtroll]

I'd have no problem with them being VERY expensive compared to other terminators, but that's because they provide the sisters with a capability that nothing in their army has. Namely good close combat, and invulnerable saves on non-characters.

 

It actually doesn't provide them with anything new. Grey Knight Terminators as allies to my Sisters are a common thing for me. I often will run a full 10 man squad. You could argue that they already have access to the best terminators in the game.