fjugin Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I was putting together a 750 points 13:th company army list. With so little points I had kind of a though time getting more than one scoring unit (special restrictions allows me to play with only one troop). While trying to do something with the last points I went trough all options in the SW codex. I saw that 13:th company wolf guard pack leaders may be equipped as if they were normal wolf guards, nothing special there. But this should allow you to take a normal mark of the wulfen (the one in the space wolf codex). This would make your pack leader into a independent character and thus a new unit. If this was done to a grey slayer wolf guard pack leader, he still is taken from troops, and therefore is a scoring unit. What is your thought on this, is it allowed, or dose the new MotW in codex eye of terror prevent this? Also, of its legal, is it worth taking. It will make one pretty expensive and very fragile unit. What would be the best equipment? Im thinking something like lighting claws, wolf pelt and runic charm. Maybe a storm shield might be a good idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/159070-csw-mark-of-the-wulfen-on-13th-company/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Two things: 1) No. 2) No way. RAW that MotW completely replaces the one in the SW codex for starters, secondly a wolf gaurd with mark of the wulfen doesnt count as a troops choice in a normal space wolf army.... even though a wolf gaurd counts as part of his unit for all purposes. Thats because he can never ever be part of a unit. I suggest if you want a second scoring unit you take another pack of Grey Slayers instead of something else. Getting an IC, 2 Packs of GS, and a unit of Long fangs or wolves into 750pts isnt that hard, even for 13nth company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/159070-csw-mark-of-the-wulfen-on-13th-company/#findComment-1864012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I suggest if you want a second scoring unit you take another pack of Grey Slayers instead of something else. Getting an IC, 2 Packs of GS, and a unit of Long fangs or wolves into 750pts isnt that hard, even for 13nth company. 1 Wolf Lord (HQ) @ 91 Pts Bolt Pistol (x1); Power Weapon (x1) 5 Grey Slayers Pack (Troops) @ 171 Pts Bolter / CCW (x3); Meltagun (x2); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades 1 Wolf Guard Pack Leader @ [46] Pts Power Fist (x1); Bolter 6 Grey Slayers Pack (Troops) @ 146 Pts Lord goes here. Bolter / CCW (x4); Meltagun (x2); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades 10 Fenrisian Wolf Pack (Fast Attack) @ 100 Pts 10 Fenrisian Wolf Pack (Fast Attack) @ 100 Pts 2 Long Fang Pack (Heavy Support) @ 142 Pts Lascannon (x2) 1 Long Fang Pack Leader @ [36] Pts Bolt Pistol & CCWep. Models in Army: 36 Total Army Cost: 750 Not the BEST list at 750, but it's certainly practical, and with the screen of 20 wolves, nothings really going to hurt your slayers from shooting before they get up there to cause some havoc. I prefer the all feral approach with at least 30 fenrisian wolves in the list (would be taking out the long fangs however) but it's harder to play and in my opinion not balanced. Oh and as GM said, that's a No, and the second one is also a no way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/159070-csw-mark-of-the-wulfen-on-13th-company/#findComment-1864161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassarus Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 actually the mark of wulfen is explained on page 34 in codex eye of terror, thats how it works^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/159070-csw-mark-of-the-wulfen-on-13th-company/#findComment-1865540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 actually the mark of wulfen is explained on page 34 in codex eye of terror, thats how it works^^ His question was if he could use the C:SW for the rules of Mark of wulfen since there is two rules for it (one in C:SW, another in C:EoT). So if you play SW's then you use C:SW for mark of wulfen, not C:EoT. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/159070-csw-mark-of-the-wulfen-on-13th-company/#findComment-1865649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassarus Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 ok, then I must have misinterpreted the question. well well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/159070-csw-mark-of-the-wulfen-on-13th-company/#findComment-1865657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Thats why he said the "normal version of the MotW, wich would make his wolf gaurd an independant character. It is an interesting question, as the wolf gaurd has been stated to be part of the pack he joins in all respects, including a WGPL being scoring if hes the last member of the unit. To simplify matters, and go with what I feel to be the spirit, and possibly in RAW version of the rules and say that my wulfen are always chosen from one of the HQ's bodygaurds. Thus, they are not scoring :ph34r:. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/159070-csw-mark-of-the-wulfen-on-13th-company/#findComment-1866472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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