Dashel84 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Sorry if this has been asked before - but when it says you can deploy 1 HQ and Two troops - it doesn't mention transports in the rules, but in an example they give it says player A picks a squad as one choice and its transport as the other. So if you start with a tac squad and put their transport on the board with them, is that your two choices? I also take it that a command squad is a seperate Hq choice to a captain. Can you take a HQ units dedicated tranport as one of your troop choices? Say deploy with a command squad in a razorback, and a scout squad? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dedicated transport vehicles don't count on the force organization chart, and won't count as a separate troop choice for you. So if you have a squad on the table and their transport, they're pretty much separate units for all intents and purposes, but the transport doesn't count on the FOC, nor can it transport any unit other than the one it was purchased for, also rhinos and razorbacks are the only vehicles that can be dedicated transports. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dedicated transports for troops apparently count as "troops" for the 0-2 Troops and 0-1 HQ for deployment in Dawn of War. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymmot Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 in 5th edition a transport is not limited in carrying the unit it was perchused for, it can carry any unit unless otherwise stated in the codex, however at the start of the game it may only be deployed with the troops it came with, but afterward you are free to switch it up once the game begins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pax Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dedicated transports for troops apparently count as "troops" for the 0-2 Troops and 0-1 HQ for deployment in Dawn of War. SJ Where did you hear that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jubei124 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 in 5th edition a transport is not limited in carrying the unit it was perchused for, it can carry any unit unless otherwise stated in the codex, however at the start of the game it may only be deployed with the troops it came with, but afterward you are free to switch it up once the game begins. This is not true for all forces. My Black templars cannot do this per the rulebook FAQ page 4. Neither can the Imperial Guard I don't know if there are any other besides those two though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymmot Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 yep- thus "otherwise stated in the codex." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jubei124 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I'm refering to the last two parts of your quote. Sorry I wasn't more specific but your sentence is kinda confusing with all those commas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymmot Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 I see, in that case you are correct. sorry for the confusion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiveFleetEzekial Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Dedicated transports for troops apparently count as "troops" for the 0-2 Troops and 0-1 HQ for deployment in Dawn of War. SJ Where did you hear that? BRB, p.92: under 'Multiple Unit Choices'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Nine posts and not one points out it says "units" in the Dawn of War deployment, not "choices"? so.. Sorry if this has been asked before - but when it says you can deploy 1 HQ and Two troops - it doesn't mention transports in the rules, but in an example they give it says player A picks a squad as one choice and its transport as the other. Which kinda answers your question. If you refer to the rules, it helps to do so correctly. 1 HQ unit and two Troops units, not choices. So if you start with a tac squad and put their transport on the board with them, is that your two choices? Yes......just like the example that you quoted. You answered your own question. I also take it that a command squad is a seperate Hq choice to a captain. Correct. Can you take a HQ units dedicated tranport as one of your troop choices? Is a transport bought for a HQ unit a Troop unit? No, you can not. Say deploy with a command squad in a razorback, and a scout squad? Where does the Razorback come from? If it is bought for the Command squad (ie. from the Command squad entry) then no. You have deployed 2 HQ units and 1 Troops unit. That is 1 HQ unit too many. If it is bought for a Tactical squad (for example) then yes. You have deployed 1 HQ unit and 2 Troops units. Just keep in mind that a unit cannot start the game inside a transport bought for another unit. Hope it helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiveFleetEzekial Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Nine posts and not one points out it says "units" in the Dawn of War deployment, not "choices"? so.. I would surmise that that is because... the OP didn't ask about DoW. He asked about deployment in general. DoW wasn't brought up until jefferson mentioned it in the third post. That being said, only about half of the posts in this thread have been 'on' the original topic, specifically. Coincidently, manditory FOC 'deployment' is the same number, of the same unit types, as DoW. Not hard to see how some could jump to the conclusion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Isn't Dawn of War the only deployment type that imposes any such restrictions? Also the reference to the example is a good indication in my mind. What mandatory FOC deployment are you refering to? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawks Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 the compulsory 2 troop 1 HQ choices that must be taken in any standard list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiveFleetEzekial Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 the compulsory 2 troop 1 HQ choices that must be taken in any standard list. Exactly! :woot: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1882969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelmage99 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 The FOC choices you are required to take have no impact on the unit you are allowed to field during Dawn of war. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1883375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiveFleetEzekial Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 No one ever said it did. You asked a question... What mandatory FOC deployment are you refering to? Nighthawks answered it, and I confirmed his answer as being the FOC choices I was talking about (which prompted your question). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160417-deployment/#findComment-1883486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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