Fire Fists Captain Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I just saw this in the 'Nid Codex, and couldn't see the same idea presented elsewhere in the searchy. So... 'Tyranids within Synapse range as described above (including the Synapse Creature inself) are immune to the effects of Instant Death caused by weapons with a Strength double the creature's Toughness.' Codex: Tyranids, page 28 To me, this reads so that Instant Death caused by other methods, such as a Librarian's Force Weapon, will still apply. Force weapons don't work against 'models that are immune to instant death' (40k Rulebook, p.50), but 'Nids in Synapse range aren't: they just ignore high-Strength injury such as the classic krak missile vs 'Nid Warrior's face problem. Please feedback on this, or let me know whether (and where) this has been discussed before. I find it very unlikely that is hasn't since 5th Ed was released. Otherwise, hooray! Libbies can mash Carnifexes! Reason for edit: Added section on 40k rulebook: Force weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160894-force-weapons-vs-tyranids/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 It seems you are correct, if that is how the C:'Nids reads. Of course, you still have to beat the 'Nids psyche blocking powers with your roll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160894-force-weapons-vs-tyranids/#findComment-1888194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souchan Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The tyranidFAQ changed it to all kinds of instant death, so no go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160894-force-weapons-vs-tyranids/#findComment-1888220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Fists Captain Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 OK, thanks Souchan. That's a shame, I guess I'll just have to shoot the Synapse beasties first then, to have any hope of ridding myself of those damned 'Fexes... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160894-force-weapons-vs-tyranids/#findComment-1888228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Or get your self a Grey Knight Grand Master with a Nemesis Force Weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160894-force-weapons-vs-tyranids/#findComment-1888281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divergent Reality Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Or get your self a Grey Knight Grand Master with a Nemesis Force Weapon. and the grand master's nemesis force weapon is still just a force weapon. it just has a better chance to wound due to its fancy abilities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160894-force-weapons-vs-tyranids/#findComment-1888680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divergent Reality Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 oops. d-d-doublepost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160894-force-weapons-vs-tyranids/#findComment-1888683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banville Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Nope, 'fraid not. It's the old Force Weapon that doesn't cause Instant Death. It "removes all wounds". Force Weapons didn't cause "Instant Death" when the 'dex was written so Grey Knight Grand Masters are one of the few models who can circumvent Eternal Warrior/Synapse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160894-force-weapons-vs-tyranids/#findComment-1888737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE AWESOME Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Yup, C:DH overrides BRB. One of those weird cases, like Inquisition/Templar smoke launchers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160894-force-weapons-vs-tyranids/#findComment-1888740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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