Prathios Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Hi guys im very new to B&C and I come here for honest advice from SW players. I just got into the game back in December and I'm playing Daemon Hunters (this is actually because there was no SW codex and no SW models to purchase at the GW store) and now I'm looking towards expanding and starting a second army to mix with my force. I have 2 choices. Black Templars and Space Wolves are the only options that I'm interested in. Now let me start by telling you why the debate. First I am dissapointed that there is no FW veny dread for Space Wolves and I'm no good at moding cause Ive never done anything like it before. Second as an =I= player the SW kinda make me cringe fluff wise. I can't come up with any good reasons the Wolves would put up with any inquisition crap. But on the plus side I have read and loved all the Space Wolf novels (I read close to 45 40k novels before playing the game) and Ragnar is a friggin mega-beast in the game with his low points versus ability. He can kick more butt than Calgar. I love the Space Wolf lore and fluff and they seem like a more versatile army than the Templars. So my question to you is what are the pros and cons from your perspective to the SW and is this a good time to look at picking them up? If the honest answer is to wait for the new codex I can be happy with that, at some time in the future I can get a 3rd army and celebrate death and glory with the Wolves of Leman Russ. Thanks for your help in advance guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 There might be a 'liberal' Inquisitor who developed a working relationship with a particular Rune Priest but, really, the Templars are an easier fit 'fluff-wise'. However, The Great Wolf has been known to call in Grey Knights when required so that may be one solution. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1889153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 The Sons of Russ are an interesting Chapter for working with the Inquisition - if a Wolf Lord or other high ranking Wolf gets off on the right foot with an Inquisitor, then they can have an amicable relationship, the Wolves being one of the fircest and most loyal chapters going. On the other hand, some of the more puritanical Inquisitors, especially the Ordo Hereticus view the Wolves as dangerous mutants and a threat to the stability of the Imperium. Also, the events of the 13th Black Crusade and the emergence of the 13th Company has put added pressure on the Sons of Russ. With the Malleus, I think there is more than enough fluff justification for an alliance between the two - after all, a Company of Astartes is rarely a bad thing, and the Wolves would be happy to combine forces against the Daemon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1889182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prathios Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 Thanks for the help with justification fluff wise. Very speedy replies too I might add. Now if I can get some help on the more practical questions I'll be all set to go. I think the backstory on my inquisitor could be crafted such that he not only likes, but greatly respects the Wolves... after all its my army. Though I know the chapter itself feels a great deal of animosity towards the Grey Knights for allowing the Inquisition to purge Armageddon after the third war. I'll just have to work around it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1889293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The emperors chosen Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 In one of the Ragnar books,there is an inquisitor who works with the space wolves,so it is possible Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1889300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Thanks for the help with justification fluff wise. Very speedy replies too I might add. Now if I can get some help on the more practical questions I'll be all set to go. I think the backstory on my inquisitor could be crafted such that he not only likes, but greatly respects the Wolves... after all its my army. Though I know the chapter itself feels a great deal of animosity towards the Grey Knights for allowing the Inquisition to purge Armageddon after the third war. I'll just have to work around it. Well the Wolves aren't necessarily angry at the Grey Knights, the GK did their part, it's the Inquisition itself that pissed off Grimnar. It's an individual to individual basis on which the SW decide whether to trust an Inquisitor or not though at the outset they aren't the most amiable to the Inquisition regardless. So my question to you is what are the pros and cons from your perspective to the SW and is this a good time to look at picking them up? If the honest answer is to wait for the new codex I can be happy with that, at some time in the future I can get a 3rd army and celebrate death and glory with the Wolves of Leman Russ. Now is as good a time to pick up the Wolves as any. Rumours have been around for years about a new codex and though they're getting stronger and more believable lately a new codex could still be up to a year away or more if delayed, a year in which you can pick up the wolves and learn the ropes and hey the Codex is free. Just email GW Canada and they'll send you a free PDF. Here's the adress: direct.services@games-workshop.ca Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1889339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prathios Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 I actually have the dex but im not sure if its the newer version, it says copyright 2000. Its not the dex but rather a printed version i found on a webbook page. I have both codices and I guess I just need more time to think about it... course Wolves get some serious bonus points just cause you guys have been really good about responding and the BT board has yet to give me one response. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1889401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Well, I can't comment on the BT's lack of responses. You do tend to find that this is one of the most productive forums on the board though, as we're a sociable bunch round here! As for the final decision, we can only provide advice. At the end of the day, it's your time, effort, money and army. You should go with whichever you feel most comfortable with overall, in terms of models, style, fluff and overall feel. Though frankly, if this model doesn't make you want to play wolves, I don't know what will. http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/vassakov/OD_CollectorsWolf_250x330.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1889482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 The free ale? The constant feasting? The fact that you can say "I'm so badass that I eat coal and crap out diamonds*"? And last of course, that you can say your Chapter Master has given the =][= the finger many times and they dare not do anything back? :ph34r: * Note: this doesn't actually work. I cannot be held responsible for Blood Claws ripping up their intestines trying to do this. You have been warned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1889487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prathios Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 Whats really funny about your saying that about the diamonds and being generally bad muthas is that I told a buddy of mine when he asked how I narrowed it down to these two chapters and I told him this, "You know that scene in Predator when Jesse Ventura offers his chaw to the rest of the guys in the copter and when they turn it down he says,""you're all just a bunch of slack jawed ***(censored for bored rules)*** eat a piece of this ***(again)*** it'll turn you into a ***(and again)*** sexual tyrannosaurus, just like me!"" Thats pretty much what those two chapters can say to anyone in Warhammer cause they are just that grizzled and manly." Yeah... Gotta love a group of guys who live by the man code. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1889528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Well there's that and the Space Wolves are the only Chapter in GW's canon that kicks back, gets drunk and feasts regularly! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1889632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnarRedsun Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I agree with vash that that is frickin awesome. whats more is you get a frickin dread as an hq, which is awesome. also, the space wolves are one of the the most charactorful and personal armies out there. and the scouts. gotta love the come from behind scouts :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1890526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 this is kinda about how it would work fluff wise(i got a short memory so if it was said just ignore me): SW dislike the inquisition but it doesn't mean they wont work with them. chances are if an inquisitor just tried to show up and tell the SW that he need them to do some work, that he would get chased off planet and he would keep running 'til he reached holy terra itself. now if a wolf lord of the great wolf had fought with the inquisitor before (by before i mean maybe over a 25+ year period) then they would be more trusting of him. if you want make you a wolf lord that your inquisitor is friends with, because the fought to save some planet or something together, and wound up meet a bunch more times and form a good trust bond or something like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1890530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanaellars Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I actually really like this idea, and in fact it has gotten me thinking that I might look into an Inquisitor who will befriend my wolves. The Inquisitor is a bit of a radical, with the "Just get it done" mindset. He is young as far as inquisitors go, and was hunting a daemon, who just happened to find himself in Space Wolf Territory. The Inquisitor asked the permission of the Great Wolf to hunt the daemon, and Logan, impressed that the Inquisitor was actually showing respect, offered the Wolves help. In the course of the hunt, the Inquisitor earns the respect of the wolves, and after the daemon is vanquished, Logan grants him a token of respect, showing that this particular Inquisitor is a Wolf-friend. Picturing the model now... Inquisitor in all his glory, fancy clothing and gear and such... and hanging off his belt, a single wolf tail. Yea, Im off to the local shop tomorrow I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160960-need-some-help-deciding/#findComment-1890996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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