Lord Eltor Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Hi all, after another game with daemons I finally have the next final (lol) army composition. I will explain the choices afterwards: GUO, Cloud of Flies, Breath of Chaos 14 Plaguebearers, icon 14 Plaguebearers, icon 7 Plaguebearers 7 Plaguebearers 7 Nurglings Demon Prince, Cloud of flies, Iron hide, Mark of Nurgle, noxious touch, Wings Demon Prince, Cloud of flies, Iron hide, Mark of Nurgle, noxious touch Defiler, Phlegm With this army I have different troop types where possible: 2 different prince -- both are unique (as far as useful) as princes always should be. A single defiler. It is cool looking as a centerpiece of the army though he might be not the best choice (I still don't understand why:-D). But it is a model with completely different rules and speed. Fun to play. I halso have made a concept for a scratch built model that will be my next modelling project. Nurglings are a must-have, this is a fluff-choice mostly. The Plaguebeares -- Icons ARE useful! I know this after Defiler, GUO and Winged Prince materialized 7, 9 and 11 inches into the wrong direction, directly away from the enemy to my side!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
==Me== Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Where's Epidemius? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1893140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistinthunder Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 its not epidemus's revenge it's pandemus's revenge pandemus is the name of his great unclean one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1893171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM THE AWESOME Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 He MEANT: It's a mono-nurgle list. Where's Epidemius? NOT: The list is called Epidemius's revenge. Where's Epidemius? Really, this list suffers without him. Drop the Nurglings and something else for him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1893273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Epi would definately help, but from your previous army lists it's fairly clear you don't want to use him (why this is is beyond me). Drop the breath from the GUO and put it on a prince. (That's all I can be bothered to say right now) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1893333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Eltor Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Hi, there is two things I don't like about epidemus: He is a special character and the miniature looks ugly! Even if this army is not competitive I will be able to improve its performance everytime I play. At least it might be enough to avoid being smashed and to make my opponents lifes harder! I former times (1996 and so on) many people didn't like to use special characters. Can't you remember? The next thing I post a thread in this forum will hopefully be a pictutre of my army! EDIT: Yeah, the breath will be best on the flying prince I think! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1893351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I get that people didn't like them before, but that's no reason not to like him now. As for the model, you don't have to use the offical model, you could make your own, just saying. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1893389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
==Me== Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Tell your group to get their heads out of their asses and play the damn game. Banning SCs is like banning Heavy Support or squads painted purple, it's stupid and arbitrary. Now if you can't get Epi at all, then you need to load up on as many MCs as possible. 2 GUOs, 3 Princes (Grinders are fine too, but you need some speed), and PBs to score. Nurglings are great speed bumps as are Beasts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1893410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnot19 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I think you definetly need a second HQ choice (2nd GUO) otherwise I dont see enough killing power Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1893541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor1313 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Bring another Greater Daemon. Your plaguebearers are there for the ability to score; you probably don't need to bring 30 of them AND the tarpit nurglings. It's not the 'old days.' There's no 'may I bring this guy?' crap to deal with. Given the trend of 'HQ unlocks army type' we're seeing, that kind of thinking means that you're killing a lot of a codex's versatility and builds. @==Me== Grinders are fleet, which is faster than a walking Prince. For 160, you get a guy that fleets, fires a massive template, and cranks out S10 attacks in melee. For the same price for the prince, you get a little less vulnerable to melta weapons, but slower and more afraid of powerfists and thunder hammers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1895139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
==Me== Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Very true, I'm so used to running Princes in mono-Nurgle armies I totally forgot about them :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1895458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 You realise fleet isn't that much faster, you only get to assault one turn earlier, occasionally, depends on your run rolls. Besides, most Nurgle princes have wings, which while more expensive, actually is faster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1895653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor1313 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 It's mostly about the capabilities you want in your army. Without running Epedemius, mono-Nurgle gets to choose. It can take Grinders for the strong shooting component, which Princes simply can't do. Grinders can also be run as cheap 135pt assault machines, but are one Immobilized result away from crying. But, at 135, it beats any 135pt Daemon Prince build. The other real question is 'how much melta do you see in your area'? Melta weapons will do a great job of stopping assaulting Soul Grinders, but they only knock a wound off the DP. The squad attached to the melta or plasma weapon can still potentially damage the DP, but T6 makes it less of a risk (unless it's a bunch of angry crisis suits with plasma rifles and missile launchers, in which case you might be in trouble). 200ish for the greater-daemon stand-in, 160 for the shooty grinder, or 135 for the smashy grinder. With mono-nurgle, I think it's closer to taste between the first two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161253-my-new-nurgle-demons-army-pandemus-revenge/#findComment-1897119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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