Commissar Molotov Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I've been working on some conversions to try to reduce my lead mountain a little and after finding some Space Wolf and Chaos warrior pieces, I've been working on some models. At the moment I have a Wolf Lord and five Grey Hunters, but I'm working on improving that. I don't know what Great Company they'll be, but here's what I've done thus far. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0001.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0002.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0003.jpg Wolf Lord WIP: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0004.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0005.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0006.jpg My friend Nick told me he thought the Lord could do with something between his legs (ahem!) and so I've added a wolf tail talisman: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0007.jpg This guy now has an arm: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0008.jpg This is a new WIP Grey Hunter. The head is taken from the Khorne Berserkers sprue, with a GS moustache (which I will expand upon further when it dries to give him a beard, also.) http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0009.jpg A picture showing what I've done on the half-bionic head. I quite like his beard. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0010.jpg Another new WIP GH. Waiting for a decent outstretched right arm, I'll probably use the standard bearer's arm from the Command Squad boxed set. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0011.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0012.jpg Comments and critique are welcome! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Well done Molotov! Good to see you flexing that godly converting ability of yours to us Wolves. I love the WIP so far, make sure to keep it up and keep me informed. Also, what's the head that you used on the Wolf Lord? I don't recognize it from anywhere so care to enlighten me? As for a Great Company, I've never seen the Company of Egil Ironwolf done, so maybe you can do the Iron Wolves? That lord has a very stern, no-nonsense look to him, much like I've envisioned hoary old Egil. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1894560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 i like them, except the wolf lord, he looks like a dwarf imo, although that might be because of the angle of the pictures, are we getting a group shot? for the outstretched arm there are still the biker arms Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1894566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the akratic Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 The wolf Lord's studded shoulder pad has a fairly obvious Dark Angels Logo on a rope. Did you intend this as a trophy? If not, maybe consider removing it, or at least defacing it. Other than that, great job. GS work on the hair and fur looks really nice! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1894569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Well done Molotov! Good to see you flexing that godly converting ability of yours to us Wolves. I love the WIP so far, make sure to keep it up and keep me informed. Also, what's the head that you used on the Wolf Lord? I don't recognize it from anywhere so care to enlighten me? As for a Great Company, I've never seen the Company of Egil Ironwolf done, so maybe you can do the Iron Wolves? That lord has a very stern, no-nonsense look to him, much like I've envisioned hoary old Egil. Well, thanks for the compliments! I'm mainly doing them for fun and to use up bits but I quite like the effect I've achieved. Any information on Egil Ironwolf (even his clan symbol) would be appreciated, and I'll give the fluff some thought. I always liked Bran Redmaw but I don't think this model really fits. I used to have the SW codex but it's disappeared so I can't look at the round table in the back. The wolf lord head is taken from Scout-Sergeant Telion. I liked the hoary old veteran look it has, and I wanted to buck the trend that old wolves have to have beards down to their ankles. i like them, except the wolf lord, he looks like a dwarf imo, although that might be because of the angle of the pictures, are we getting a group shot?for the outstretched arm there are still the biker arms It's been difficult getting pictures of the lord but he stands several mm taller than a guardsman. I'll get a group shot tomorrow when the light is decent. :D The wolf Lord's studded shoulder pad has a fairly obvious Dark Angels Logo on a rope. Did you intend this as a trophy? If not, maybe consider removing it, or at least defacing it. Other than that, great job. GS work on the hair and fur looks really nice! Yes, I imagined that he'd taken the pendant after a victorious honour-duel against a Dark Angels champion. It seemed fitting, given the "fraternal rivalry" that the Wolf Lord would respect his defeated comrade and wear his pendant as a badge of luck. Thanks for the comments, guys! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1894595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Huh, didn't recognize it then. Ah well... *trips over ankle-length beard as I come back with the Codex* Damn it all! CRACK *looks down to see the flagstones split* :D Okay, so here's what the Codex says on Egil... Egil Iron Wolf's Great Company. The icon of the Iron Wolf is a representation of the great beast that lies beneath Asaheim, the fur on his back creating the mountains. http://www.gobiel.com/sonsofruss/webpage/lord5.gif That's his icon right there. Other then that, not much is mentioned in the Codex, other than that he offered to Drop Pod into a greenskin camp on Priory II. He's an old Wolf, even older than Grimnar himself, at least according to the Space Wolf novels. Redmaw (who is my junior, so he stole my name) ;), is described as being very young, although he is older than Blackmane. He also bears the Mark of the Wulfen and is clean-shaven. On page 13 of the Space Wolves Codex, he's shown killing Dark Eldar on what looks like Fenris. I'll assume that it was just artistic license to put the Dark Eldar on Fenris, seeing as they've never been there. http://www.gobiel.com/sonsofruss/webpage/lord12.gif Bran Redmaw's Great Company, whose personal icon is the Blooded Hunter, a symbol traditionally associated with Wolf Lords bearing the Mark of the Wulfen. Your Lord mini doesn't fit Redmaw at all, so I'd go with Egil. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1894618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Hrm... which novel is Egil mentioned in? I have all four (of the King books), and it'd be neat to read up on him. (EDIT: If you have page references, that'd be great too.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1894633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 He's in Wolf Blade for sure and he might be in Ragnar's Claw and Grey Hunter. Yes, I'm almost positive he's in the latter two, since there was a meeting of the Wolf Lords. Which one I'm not sure, as it has been a while since I read them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1894736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epistolary Exander Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I have my SW dex at home. If youd like to borrow the dex you can do Mol. I doubt I will be using my wolves until easter. Exander. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1894780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Yet another Space Marine Chapter Molotov? :D Very nice looking wolves there, your work on the GS hair is especially good. I think Bran has it right Egil Ironwolf would be best. The most textual info on him in the SW novels is in the first few chapters of Grey Hunter and again after the boarding action above Garm. I'll see if I can dig up some page numbers later. Here's a pic of the Grand Anulus: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/Vash113/40k%20Images/warlord.jpg and you can email GW Canada for a free PDF of the Codex: direct.services@games-workshop.ca Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1894930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Actually our old Depthcharge used to play the iron wolves, so its quite likely youd find some stuff on his old site. There should still be a linky in the stickied FAQ. EDIT: Oops... forgot he took that down, sorry. While it might mean nothing at all the two runes that accompany his sigil mean "home/earth" and "Hail" respectively. The first rune could possibly be translated as "iron" or "bones of the earth" and Hail is also know as the destruction that renews. Or hail of iron? The few times Ive seen it played its been a transport/tank heavy army. Wolf89 often writes lists that I would say smack of the Iron Wolves. You might check those out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1895280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 @Vash: Yeah, I fiddle around with various projects as the fancy takes me. I've flicked through the books and I found the description of Egil on pp28-29 of Grey Hunter, where King describes him as 'another mighty man, older by far than Berek [Thunderfist]. A silver crescent of hair descended from the sides of his bald head, and his beard hung in a dozen pleats. Great furrows crinkled the leathery skin of his face. His clear blue eyes surveyed the scene with a cold ferocity unusual even in a battle brother.' King goes on to say that 'Egil was older even than Logan Grimnar although he looked as hale as a man half his age. It was said he had weathered over seven standard centuries in the service of the Chapter.' On P.43 of Wolfblade Ragnar just sees 'the ancient head of Egil Ironwolf nod grimly.' I'm going to keep flicking through Grey Hunter til I find the boarding action. @ Grey Mage: Thanks for teh input. I was wondering about the runes, and I can certainly see your reasoning behind a transport/drop pod heavy force. I might fiddle around with a Black Reach dreadnought in an attempt to wolfify it a little. We'll see! :) Here's two more Grey Hunters I've been fiddling around with: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/Swolf-0013.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/Swolf-0014.jpg And because people were asking about the height of Egil: http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/Swolf-0015.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/Swolf-0016.jpg I think he'll be alright. He's not that dwarflike! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1895435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I just found the part on the audience following the boarding action and the only descriptions in that part are of Sigrid Trollbane unfortunately, sorry. That said as cool as Egil's axe looks I say he needs a right proper Frost Axe :D. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1895602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 A bit of a measly offering in this post but I've been pretty busy and haven't been able to slave away as I'd like to. Plus, I've run out of Chaos Warrior bits which has put a crimp in my plans! Here's two Grey Hunters. http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0017.jpg http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z121/mnesimache/Corner/SWolf-0018.jpg Now, I've become dissatisfied with Egil Ironwolf. There are two Great Companies I'm toying with. The first would be Sigrid Trollbane - I like the idea of him, plus as he's the antagonist, playing himself off against Berek Thunderfist, it seems like a neat idea, though I'm not sure about him. I'd have to rework my WL model (or make a new one) to fit the description King gives. Plus, I'm not sure if Trollbane has a continued history (or gruesome death) in Lightner's Ragnar books. The other option I considered was to depict the Great Company of Jotun Bearclaw, who renounced his oaths and elected to stay in the Eastern Fringes. There's more of a blank slate there and I could perhaps do more interesting things, fluff-wise. I'd really appreciate some input from people on the descision. Thanks in advance, - Mol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1920707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ra1stl1n Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 How did you fit the back of the chaos warriors to the marines torso in the first pics...i tried a couple of times but to no avail... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1920789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 How did you fit the back of the chaos warriors to the marines torso in the first pics...i tried a couple of times but to no avail... Maybe i can help you. I had done this with all GH and WG in PA. You need a Dremel or similar tool to mill out the shoulders and the elbows and to fit in the SM shoulder pads and arms. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Space%20Wolves/GreyHunterWIPWithoutlegs.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Space%20Wolves/GreyHunterWIPwithoutlegs2.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Space%20Wolves/GreyHunterWIPwithoutlegssideview.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x120/DarkBjoern/Space%20Wolves/GreyHunterWIPwithLegs.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1920812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Jotun Bearclaw all the way.... if you dont want to worry about "canon" this and that its always best to go with a clean slate. Besides, theres alot to fight out on the eastern fringe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1920815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ra1stl1n Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Maybe i can help you. I had done this with all GH and WG in PA. You need a Dremel or similar tool to mill out the shoulders and the elbows and to fit in the SM shoulder pads and arms. Ah thank you,tried something like that with the xacto but didnt really help i'll get a dremel when i can then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1920884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 Jotun Bearclaw all the way.... if you dont want to worry about "canon" this and that its always best to go with a clean slate. Besides, theres alot to fight out on the eastern fringe. A good point; I'm certainly leaning more towards Jotun Bearclaw now. The article states this: "Amongst other Space Marine chapters such behaviour would be viewed as a fatal breach of discipline, those involved would be declared renegade and mercilessly hunted down. However, the Space Wolves primarch, Leman Russ, was always renowned for his independence and impetuosity, and I believe these traits remain predominant within the chapter. The oaths of fealty undertaken by the Wolf Lords of the Space Wolf Great Companies declare their allegiance to Russ and the Emperor but do not stipulate servitude to the Great Wolf. It appears that in some cases a Wolf Lord and his Great Company separate from the main body of the chapter, undertaking their own quests and missions for a variety of reasons. The case of Jotun Bearclaw, for example, indicates that his men elected not to return to Fenris because of the long journey time through warp space, and presumably the temporal displacement they would suffer on arrival (potentially several years over such a distance). I suspect that there is some more hidden motive behind the Company's actions, one which [has not been shared by Jotun Bearclaw]. As to the long term viability of these 'lost companies' it is difficult to say. Given sufficient geneseed and technical competence it is entirely possible for such a company to maintain it's strength over a protracted period, inducting and training new recruits in the same way as a normal chapter. Less well-supplied companies might have to resort to training ordinary humans to fill their ranks or face the prospect of gradually dwindling in numbers until the company ceases to exist. Speculation aside, this subject obviously requires further investigation, A Space Wolves Company is a substantial organisation and the concept of having such groups wandering the galaxy without any check or balance is somewhat worrying...." So really, I'm looking for ideas on the direction to take these guys. What kind of man would Bearclaw be? Any ideas? Why would he turn his back on Fenris? the article makes it sound somewhat sinister, but there's obviously a multiplicity of possible suggestions that could be used. All ideas are welcome - I'll try to get some new pics up soon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1926141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ra1stl1n Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 It could be an unhealthy beef with a specific thousand sons sorcerer-leader which he would chase to the end of the world without giving any thought to anything else maybe. And in doing so his company agreed with him but the Great Wolf probably thought it was a waste of resources and so just declared them a lost one and let them to pursue their own targets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1926817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousFerret Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I like these! Space Wolves who conceivably wear their helmets if they had to, without suffocating in six-foot beards! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161379-the-lost-company-of-jotun-bearclaw/#findComment-1926868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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