tortoise Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Sicarius is such a great model that as soon as I saw him I knew I wanted to do something with the model. After a while it dawned on me that the pose and general decorative nature of the model would make it perfect as the basis for a chaos lord. Since chaos lords aren't all that good in the codex I went for a sorcerer instead. Luckily my EC army has been needing a good leader model for some time now (I've started 3 before but always end up unsatisfied with them) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/tortoise222000/lord2-1.jpg Now i originally intended to use the daemonette standard (the one without the flag) for his right hand but having tested it it doesn't work very well. Does anyone have any suggestions for a nice ornate force weapon? I'm also not sure what to put in his other hand. I was thinking about a daemonette claw, but that might look a bit obvious. Comments and crit would be much appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_bunny Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 :-D wonderful! very smooth! try Lucius's whip/sword, very slaaneshi, but Marine like also! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1895704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint of Steel Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Oh my... that daemonic face is simply outstanding! B) No suggestions I'm afraid... but if it's EC then possibly have a look at the the Dark Elf/Eldar range? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1895725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pugno Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I Have seen a lance from the Chaos Fantasy knights - a trident with a face thing - that looked quite cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1895730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahawi Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 The sword from the warhammer slaanesh champion on foot, it'd really suit it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1895809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Disciple Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 WOW, thats amazing! I think Lucius whip, suitably bent or recreated would look amazing on this guy. Failing that the weapons from the new sigvald the magnificent would also look good. But hey I'm just a sucker for swords. What ever you choose I cant wait to see how it looks when your done. Disciple Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1896315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortoise Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Cheers guys. I don't really want to use a sword for his weapon. I want something that looks more 'staff like' since he is a sorcerer after all. I think a sword might make him look like the pose from the Cadian colonel model. I think a hafted weapon will add to the models sense of height and imposition. I just can't think of a good one to use. The chaos knight lance might work though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1898519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 F A N T A S T I C GS skills good job ^_^ . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1898521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodeus' Swordhand Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Back before they trashed the GW site, there was an article with a really cool Tigurius staff conversion. You could try a head replacement of that staff? Arhiman's fits anywhere almost too. Looks good so far :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1898625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonclaw Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 first off fantastic greenwork that guy is starting out beautifully . second ,for his other hand you could go with the slightly obvious open hand with some sorcerous power coming out.with your greenstuff skills i am sure you could do it justice. as for the force weapon you could hash one together with parts from the imperial termy thunder hammer and chaos termy weapons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1898767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Very nice green stuff work indeed, most impressive! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1898798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marovingean Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 First off, great stuff, your GS-Fu is strong :D Few thoughts, for the right hand, you won't want anything too big, the position of the arm would make something larger than a dagger look awkward. I was thinking an orb might be quite cool, very classical Sorcerer image, and would be subtle enough to be obvious... if that makes sense. Not quite sure for the left hand, a flag might look good, if it's leaning against the marine itself, and his arm/hand is just supporting it, without actually holding it. Just my 2 M Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1898915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortoise Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Thanks guys- some great suggestions for the force weapon there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1899009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turelhim vampire Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Oh wow - now you have the basis of an AMAZING Lord Commander of the Emperors Children there - with a bit of work Sicarius' head would fit it perfectly too - the smug grin and all. Give him hair like Jason Isaacs has in the Harry Potter films and I think it would look wonderful. Not what you are going for, I know, but still... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1899139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 How did you learn to do GS work like this? How do you get it so clean and crisp? Any tips you could give would be great, or if you could link any tutorials you learned from. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1899166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Doyok Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Niiiiiiiccceeeeee... I like your GS work.. I wonder how the head will look like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1899321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortoise Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Niiiiiiiccceeeeee... I like your GS work.. I wonder how the head will look like. I'm kind of wondering that myself... Its been started. The funny thing about greenstuff (or the way i use it anyway) is its really hard to see how well you've done the sculpting until you undercoat it. Drudge Dreadnought- I'm entirely self taught when it comes to sculpting. I can't think of a tutorial I've ever read that told me how to do much more than sculpt hair. I've gone through a hell of a lot of trial and error. Check the link for a tutorial I wrote on sculpting EC heads. My top tip is to use small clay shapers rather than metal sculpting tools and to everything in lots of stages. tutorial link Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1899632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Would you mind if we put that tutorial in the Librarium tortoise ? EDIT: Excellent work BTW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1899696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudge Dreadnought Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Can you tell me more about these clay shapers? Where do you get them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1900590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortoise Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 Would you mind if we put that tutorial in the Librarium tortoise ? EDIT: Excellent work BTW. I'd be honoured. Drudge Dreadnought- clay shapers can be picked up from pretty much any art and craft shop. They are flexible rubber sculpting tools that come in a variety of shapes. They also have size designations just like brushes do. In fact they look just like a paint brush with a shaped rubber tip instead of bristles. Because the rubber is flexible they give a much smoother finish than metal tools. In fact when I sculpt I use the shaper a bit like a brush, smoothing surfaces with many small strokes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1900632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Something like Fabius Bile's Rod of Torment perhaps? Maybe even positioned with the hand resting ontop of the skull top with the Rod's end touching the ground as if using it like a walking rod? TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1900646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostLegion Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 One thing i took for a SM Lib was the metal staff head off a WHFB sorceror model. Stick that on a piece of plastruct tubing or the staff from the CSM terminator lord box and it should look ok...maybe a little work needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1900655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pugno Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I'd suggest maybe for his left hand the shield from the Sigvald(?) the magnificent fantasy mdel also for his head why not the head from the fantasy khorne lords whth the horns Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1901135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortoise Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 I'd suggest maybe for his left hand the shield from the Sigvald(?) the magnificent fantasy mdel also for his head why not the head from the fantasy khorne lords whth the horns That head did almost get the vote. If the one I'm sculpting doesn't work out then I'm gonna see about sticking some greenstuff on that head. For the staff I'm now considering the Tzeentch champions staff with a modified Slaanesh standard for the top part. Still don't really know what to do for the other hand though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/161451-sorcerer-wip/#findComment-1901410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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